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and last week we talked about what we

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call reopening old wounds about UFO

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abductions fortunately the serious

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feedback I anticipated hasn't come yet

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and maybe I shouldn't press that issue

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what do you think yeah let sleeping

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commentators live but we'll always be

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politically incorrect one thing that has

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brought a lot of discussion though is

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George Hansen's comments about

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tricksters and our meaning indeed

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yeah it's there's quite a lively

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repartee and debate going on at the

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forums at forum dr. Barrick ascom where

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also comment about the show and argue

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some salient points about subjects that

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we cover here at the para cast and in

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this week's George Hanson show thread is

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pretty pretty fascinating you know I've

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been sitting back taking notes and I'll

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be ready to chime in on with my two

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cents here at some point but I think it

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did spark a lot of debate it got people

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thinking some people still don't get it

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they think the trickster is a person

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people can be trickster like but the

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trickster

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it's very difficult to nail down it's

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like trying to nail jello to the wall

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but basically it's a mechanism that

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supplies a knee structure and creates

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room for creativity topples static

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systems and is neither here nor there

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it's neither young or old black or white

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positive or negative it's liminal

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meaning that it's not in the room or out

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of the room it's kind of at the doorway

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or in the threshold so these are all

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very interesting concepts that are being

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bantered about at the pair caste forum

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so tune in would you call the trickster

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a force use the Force Chris I'm not sure

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if it's a force

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describing that it's a constellation of

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elements that tend to be any structural

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they tend to as I said before topple

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static structures create room for

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creativity and growth often times when

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things get too entrenched when powers

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that be in control structures become too

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rooted in one spot the trickster comes

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along and topples the house of cards so

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you know it's a cross between a force

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and a mechanism I I would say a

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constellation of various elements that

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tend to get stronger as the effect of

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the trickster process unfolds the

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trickster tends to get more powerful

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until it reaches a point of equilibrium

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and then it it tends to fade back away

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and remain back in the in our Western

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so to speak except you know we have

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clowns and masquerade balls and other

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vestiges of the trickster that still

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remain in our culture for the most part

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that trickster is out of sight out of

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so we get a in and we get a yang yeah

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that's one way of looking at it okay I'm

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defy that one gene to balance there has

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to be a sense of balance when things are

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moved in one direction or another

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something has to correct exactly it's

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like a thermostat in the house when it

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gets too hot

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the AC kicks on when it gets too too

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cold the heater kicks on so let's just

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call the trickster

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the universe is thermostat well at least

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it's our planets thermostat I can't you

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know speak to the universe but possibly

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so do you think the trickster therefore

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is plants specific or the people over at

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Zeta Reticuli have their own trickster

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running around or the force or whatever

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it is you know again that's it's really

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hard to say everything anything that I

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could say about that would be pure

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speculation on my part

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well you're the trickster expert of the

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planet right no not by any stretch you

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know I I more confused now than I was

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before I started researching stalking

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the tricksters which was my book before

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stalking the herd so you know I I can't

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really claim any any sort of expertise I

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don't think there really are any experts

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on the trickster the more you think you

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know about it the the more curveballs

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and screwballs you tend to have to

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attempt to hit out of the park and and

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that's why I've stayed out of the

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current conversation because you know I

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think other people are really doing a

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good job of sort of presenting

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particular points of view and so far I

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haven't really been asked to for my

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opinion so I'm like how can I offer it

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well that's a good thing maybe you'll

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avoid trouble actually it's funny the

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topic that seems to get the most debate

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and sometimes it's very severe debate in

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our forums has nothing to do with the

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paranormal has nothing to do with UFOs

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has nothing to do with tricksters

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although maybe it does and that is

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climate change you know isn't that

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interesting how there is a very very

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very intense debate over whether there

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is such a thing as man or human-made

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climate change yeah well I've been kind

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of staying out of that one too actually

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I don't want to cuz as soon as your

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comment half the half the group is gonna

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jump on you so I think they're both

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wrong

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okay so there is and there isn't I think

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we're contributing but I don't think

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we're I think the planet has its own

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mechanism as soon as it starts to warm

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up it releases more methane and again

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you have a thermostat like condition the

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planet has its own built-in trickster

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ish mechanism that you know as the

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planet gets warmer than it it clicks on

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the the AC and and the Gulf Stream slows

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down and stops and then warm water isn't

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brought up to the to the northern Arctic

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regions and that facilitates you know

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ice ages and the ice age cools

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everything down in order to keep

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everything in equilibrium so you know

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III think that we're not helping the

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issue by pumping tons of carbon into the

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air but you know the right now the

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tundra up in Siberia is melting the

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permafrost is melting that's releasing

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amazing amounts of ozone depleting gas

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and methane into the atmosphere so I

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think it's it's a can it's a confluence

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of factors that are contributing mm nah

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that's there isn't a single one that you

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climate change I don't think humans are

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lot more to do with it then some of your

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you know real al gore types out there

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would like you to believe okay

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climate change let's move on to sky

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people the subject of our episode we

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have oh this is fascinating and by the

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way this is the second book I've heard

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of called sky people there was a book

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from the 60s by Bradley Lepore trench

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called the sky people love the classic

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ancient astronaut books and this is also

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called sky people but in a different

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sense although I guess the results may

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be the same our guest today dr. rt6

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killer Clarke spent seven years

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traveling around the my lands around

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Mesoamerica

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collecting stories and legends about

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non-human entities and I think it's

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gonna be a fascinating episode she's

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quite the storyteller unlike her first

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appearance here I'm not gonna constantly

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be asking her for documentation for

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dates and times and all those kinds of

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things that I like to gather when I when

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I do my research we're just gonna sit

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back and talk about the elect of the

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loopies or Lexi's the little diminutive

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Dwarfs that are found down in my own

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world and all sorts of interesting

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creatures that flit about in the shadows

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down there we'll have more to flit about

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in the shadows with our d6 killer Clarke

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offer sky people gene and Chris you're

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iWeb your site is hosted on one of the

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most reliable networks in the world talk

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to a sales rep at iWeb calm use the

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promo code tech night-owl for a special

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discount first game attack of the rock

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codes and it was a critically acclaimed

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success and now there's the coming of

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the protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

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our distant planet are planning to

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conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at Rocko it's calm that's Rocko

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it's our Ock oids comm mics tenors and

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fremitus resources and no time in

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history have precious metals been more

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important certainly not in my 22 years

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in the industry the dollar has lost over

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90% of its value in the last 60 years

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no fiat currency has ever survived the

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government printing presses ours is not

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immune the time is now to be proactive

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1-866 to 237 extension 1 1 6 anything

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tied to the dollar is at risk

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CDs annuities 401 k's IRA stocks bonds

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you name it so decide do you want to

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leave a legacy of wealth or debt for

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your family the choice is yours call me

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a 1-800 six eight six to 237 extension

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one one six that's one eight hundred six

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eight six two two three seven extension

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one one six be proactive not reactive

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what good is a big berkey water filter

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we get that question a lot here at big

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berkey water filters calm and in a word

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the answer is protection protection from

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environmental chemical spills pesticide

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runoff chlorine taste and smell and all

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forms of fluoride plus big berkey water

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filters are the original gravity water

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filter system and most trusted on the

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market for a reason tested by multiple

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independent NSF EPA certified labs they

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welcome back dr. rt6 killer Clarke and

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she has a new book out that came out

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just some weeks back called sky people

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and I guess from the title it infers

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what it's about

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but there's a subtitle untold stories of

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alien encounters in Mesoamerica that's

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already makes me curious as if what it's

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all about Artie thank you for joining us

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in the para cast again what led you to

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take the Odyssey that you took to

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explore these mysteries about advanced

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people in ancient times well first of

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all you know I I have an interest in

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indigenous peoples perspectives of UFOs

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and alien encounters and I have been

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collecting stories for years among

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American Indians in the United States

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and I collected some stories down in the

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South Pacific and New Zealand and

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Australia and when I retired it well

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right before I actually my retirement at

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MSU I had decided I was going to fulfill

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a teenage dream when I was in high

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school a teacher handed me a book called

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John L Stevens and Frederick Catherwood

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and Stevens is considered to be the

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father of American Archaeology basically

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and I read their book and I was just

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fascinated with the journey they had

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taken because they made this journey

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their first journey in 1839 and they

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were had heard rumors about these

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ancient cities in the jungle but there

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is no proof that they really existed and

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so they went there in search of these

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ancient cities it resulted in a book

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called incidents of travel in Central

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America the Chiapas and the Yucatan

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and they began and believe what is now

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believed at that time it was British

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Honduras and and they traveled through

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Belize - well they said they stopped

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over in Belize but they went through

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Guatemala Honduras and into Mexico and

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when I turned to look back into the

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teacher I said you know what he says I'm

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gonna follow in their footsteps oh I'm

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gonna make that trip just like they made

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it and she said well they have another

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book called incidents of travel in the

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Yucatan and she said why don't you read

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that - well I just fell in love with

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these two explorers and and made up my

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mind that I was going to carry out that

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that promise to myself one day and of

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course as as the years passed you know a

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career and family and everything just

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took precedent over my promise to myself

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and I had read von Daniken's work on the

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ancient astronaut theory of how these

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cities were built by aliens and and so I

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just decided that while I made the trip

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I was going to see if I could learn

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about the ancient legends of the sky

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people in sky gods and if I could

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collect stories of alien encounters and

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UFO sightings from the Mayan people and

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of course I selected my guides and

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interpreters and drivers of people who

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themselves had interest in UFOs well I

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made a promise to my well I made the

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promise to myself and decided that I was

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going to make this trip one of the

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things that I knew I would need would be

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drivers and interpreters and guys who

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first of all had an interest in what I

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was doing and secondly had connections

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and were respected people within the

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area where I was traveling

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I was very lucky to find those kind of

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people and I credit them for providing

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me with access to individuals and and

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you know introducing me to people and

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and something us some of the stories I

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gathered simply was by chance some of

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them were people in hotels where I was

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staying and the word got around that

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what I was doing there and they would

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come to me and tell me they had a story

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but the majority of them you know I was

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helped tremendously by the people I

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hired to work with me now who does the

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legwork here do you go and integrate it

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you do it all so you have to go on it

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and make it clear to people that you

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want to talk about their legends and set

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things down and is there for you ever

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think here though that when you make

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this known that maybe a few people just

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want to tell you stories to get into a

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book or something I don't think so

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because they saw what their names used

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to begin with they many of them were or

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you know worse were illiterate and so

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they wouldn't be seeking some kind of

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Fame and they I don't think they were

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people who who were interested in any

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kind of fame or attention the Maya have

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a quite a elaborate in very impressive

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oral tradition as well so a lot of these

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stories have been passed down from many

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generations yeah well and and these some

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of the ancient stories are tell as a

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prelude to the chapters are stories that

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have been there for four centuries you

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know and you know and occasionally you

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know like I was in Monte Alban which was

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a it's a Zapotec ancient site up in

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Oaxaca and Stevens and Catherwood never

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went there but I wanted to go there out

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of here

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ah city and see if I could learn

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anything and I hired us a driver who was

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quite familiar with the area and spoke

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some of the regional languages and and

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when I was involved the oven I was

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standing by myself overlooking this the

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monte alban is built up on a mountain

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and I was looking out over the jungle

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below and I had three young men

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approached me and they had a movie

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camera a film a studio camera and they

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asked me what I thought about the

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earning that was going on by the by the

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people that live there in those little

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villages and what they do is they slash

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and burn the jungle and they plant their

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their crops and and you could see you

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know standing there overlooking the

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valley you can see all these little

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smoke smoke coming up and that's where

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they were burning and getting ready to

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plant their crops and they were doing

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they told me they were with the

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university they were students at the

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University and they were going to do a

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film on this and so they wanted to put

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me on film what I thought about this and

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I said oh no I don't want to be a scare

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film about what I thought about this you

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know what let's do the break now

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arty I do not want to be on film anyway

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started to hear about these legends

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about the arrival of sky people now

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already before we get into some of the

590
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stories isn't an interesting that we

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have these legends in all cultures

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around the planet it seems so very

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interesting you know one of the things

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that that you know in the scientific age

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so to speak came into being you know all

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of the the oral stories that had been

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handed down for generations or simply

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set aside as you know if you couldn't

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prove them empirically than they were

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worth listening to and so you have what

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result is that there's a loss of a lot

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of history and a lot of the indigenous

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people around the world have kept those

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stories and many of them are unknown you

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know and when you get out in the field

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and you start talking to people you

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start hearing these these legends and

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these young men that I met in Montreal

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but when they found out what I was doing

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they suggested well perhaps they should

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follow me around because what I was

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doing was a lot more interesting than

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what they were doing and so they began

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to tell me about a village where there

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is was an ancient story about a man a

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man who came from the stars and he came

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on a beam of light

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and he entered the village he could

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terraform the earth he could he he

620
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helped the people build a city he taught

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them how to do different things and in

622
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construction and he married a local

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woman and they had a child they had a

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son and when that son got old enough to

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assume the duties of taking care of the

626
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people he went back to the same spot

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where he arrived on the beam of light

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and a beam of light came down and took

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him to the stars and he was never seen

630
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again

631
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and these young men told me the story

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and so I went in search of this this

633
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village and the site and and it's fairly

634
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unknown site you know it's right along

635
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the side of a highway I mean if you

636
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driving by you'd never even know it

637
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existed but since I was looking for it I

638
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was able to find it and I was talking to

639
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the to the man at the kiosk there and

640
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and he said well you know he would take

641
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me around and and show me the site and

642
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one of the things that was very

643
00:31:02,169 --> 00:30:56,090
interesting to me as they had a carved

644
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in stone this this man that came from

645
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the stars they had his image carved in a

646
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stone and he was wearing goggles which I

647
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found highly unusual and he was also had

648
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what appeared to be a breathing

649
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apparatus and I could see that you know

650
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where you people would come up with some

651
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of the theories that they've come up

652
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with but you know and and when I talk

653
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:38,380
this man I said will do the start people

654
00:31:43,259 --> 00:31:40,090
ever come back to your village and he

655
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said oh yes they do come back and the

656
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:45,700
and he told me about how they come back

657
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and they visit with the elders in their

658
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village and they come back and as though

659
00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:54,250
they pay homage to they go to the site

660
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:56,980
that the ancient site is though they are

661
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,120
paying homage to the ancestors that were

662
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:03,760
there so this is how that's here and now

663
00:32:08,370 --> 00:32:06,490
we're talking about yes yes

664
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:08,380
now the goggles kind of reminds me of

665
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that's true it is kind of interesting

666
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because some of those cultures down

667
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there you know the Toltec and and I'm

668
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:30,519
trying to think you know how to

669
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tremendous influence on the Mayan

670
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:37,500
culture too you know and and introduced

671
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:42,059
the savagery of you know the

672
00:32:46,139 --> 00:32:44,470
decapitation and tearing out the hearts

673
00:32:51,149 --> 00:32:46,149
and all that sort of thing to the Maya

674
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:51,159
culture prior to the introduction of the

675
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atlatl in the Toltec and warfare it was

676
00:32:59,100 --> 00:32:57,159
the Mayan aristocracy in the royal class

677
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in the priests class that would do the

678
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bloodletting and they would do it on

679
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:05,460
themselves okay Aaron out of the heart

680
00:33:12,419 --> 00:33:08,500
well they did but it was it was more of

681
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,429
a it was it wasn't like the Aztec later

682
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:14,320
on where you know hundreds even

683
00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:15,970
thousands of people would be lined up

684
00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:18,820
and this would happen it was done only

685
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:21,700
out of kind of necessity as a last

686
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:25,510
resort and but but they did sacrifice

687
00:33:30,899 --> 00:33:28,630
people they sacrifice the captured

688
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:30,909
warriors from other cities they'd agree

689
00:33:35,159 --> 00:33:33,070
now they'd agreed to exchange prisoners

690
00:33:38,570 --> 00:33:35,169
and it was quite an honor to be selected

691
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:38,580
as one of these sacrificial victims

692
00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:41,049
their warfare was more of a stylized

693
00:33:46,330 --> 00:33:42,560
almost

694
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:46,340
kabuki theater really based on some of

695
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:49,250
my research and it wasn't until as you

696
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:51,410
mentioned that the Toltec introduced you

697
00:33:56,050 --> 00:33:53,710
know they're taking of sacking of cities

698
00:33:58,330 --> 00:33:56,060
raping and pillaging and all that sort

699
00:34:00,610 --> 00:33:58,340
of thing prior to that that was not part

700
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:00,620
of the Olmec or Mayan culture to my

701
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:04,520
knowledge yeah well I found the Maya

702
00:34:11,350 --> 00:34:08,480
today to be very peaceful people and a

703
00:34:12,970 --> 00:34:11,360
very humble people you know I couldn't

704
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:12,980
behave it I was watching a History

705
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:16,490
Channel show back in 2009 I think of

706
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:19,760
2008 and they were talking about the

707
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:23,570
Maya and how they went extinct in the

708
00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:26,240
1300s and and I couldn't believe what I

709
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:28,340
was reading the Maya are probably the

710
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:30,260
largest group of indigenous Americans

711
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:35,570
there's over 4 million of them you know

712
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:39,530
if you include Guatemala Belize Honduras

713
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:45,710
and Mexico there's 15 million Maya might

714
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:50,090
be peace Maya I think you're maybe

715
00:34:54,070 --> 00:34:52,310
teaching Maya or you know they're

716
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:54,080
divided into different language groups

717
00:35:00,280 --> 00:34:56,090
but they're all Maya you know they feel

718
00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:00,290
I had one one driver who spoke six

719
00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:02,540
different dialects so that Maya language

720
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:09,460
you know yeah I mean that's inexcusable

721
00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:12,320
you know a lot of the interesting things

722
00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:14,750
that that the elders told me there they

723
00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:20,060
said you know we arrived here with our

724
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:22,280
knowledge we didn't get our knowledge

725
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:25,190
from someplace else we didn't have

726
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:29,030
somebody come to us and give us our

727
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:32,030
knowledge we came to this place with our

728
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:35,570
knowledge so when the Spaniards came we

729
00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:39,200
didn't consider them gods and we didn't

730
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:41,900
consider them gods like the Aztec for

731
00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:46,790
example because and and we did not

732
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:49,460
consider them as being from an advanced

733
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civilization because we were from an

734
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advanced civilization and we were more

735
00:36:00,340 --> 00:35:55,790
advanced than they

736
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were and and they you know they talk to

737
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:01,970
simply well you know you look at the

738
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:04,730
lack of don't Maya that that were not

739
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:09,920
even discovered until 1958 they lived so

740
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:13,130
far into the jungle they just left and

741
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went into the jungle and they still have

742
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743
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still practice the native religion they

744
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stay there they do not send their kids

745
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746
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live the old way we have the old way

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here to express and we'll get back with

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852
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in to the para cast let me tell you what

853
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:09,339
you're gonna hear stuff here the

854
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probably won't hear anywhere else here

855
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:15,849
that George Noory so we have here

856
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:18,219
societies that keep to themselves

857
00:41:23,009 --> 00:41:21,400
RT from what you're telling here and

858
00:41:25,979 --> 00:41:23,019
they don't interact as much of the

859
00:41:31,289 --> 00:41:25,989
outside world so how are they not too

860
00:41:33,269 --> 00:41:31,299
much there you know I saw some one of

861
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:33,279
the funniest things that happened you

862
00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:37,410
know is I had a my Amaya guide and and

863
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:40,900
in Palenque and he says to me you want

864
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:44,170
to see a real Indians and he pointed out

865
00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:47,140
this like and Don Indian and of course

866
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:49,059
they still dress in their traditional

867
00:42:02,479 --> 00:41:57,930
descendants of the call you know they I

868
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:02,489
don't think so they don't claim to be

869
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:06,609
they are they're located quite a

870
00:42:17,489 --> 00:42:11,880
distance from from palenque's you know

871
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:17,499
and and I see them was you know when I

872
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:22,390
was in when I was in saying the same

873
00:42:28,469 --> 00:42:26,140
crystal ball I've met with a father and

874
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:28,479
son who were from from that group and

875
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:33,450
then I was able to interview one of the

876
00:42:41,999 --> 00:42:37,839
tradesmen that was selling bows and

877
00:42:44,249 --> 00:42:42,009
arrows to tourists in Palenque but very

878
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:44,259
few of them ever leave you know they

879
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:50,650
they if you go to some of the year there

880
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:54,880
there are two historical sites that that

881
00:43:00,209 --> 00:42:56,940
they claim as theirs and they actually

882
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:00,219
you know are the ones in charge of those

883
00:43:06,059 --> 00:43:04,180
sites and you can't even drive up to

884
00:43:09,809 --> 00:43:06,069
those sites because they come and meet

885
00:43:12,269 --> 00:43:09,819
you and they take you in and those

886
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:12,279
drivers although they're from that that

887
00:43:16,829 --> 00:43:15,249
group they dress in western clothes and

888
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:16,839
one of the elders was telling me that

889
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:19,569
you know his grandchildren came running

890
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:23,150
over and would look at me and smile and

891
00:43:27,130 --> 00:43:25,430
run away you know it's very shy and then

892
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:27,140
come back and he says they're very

893
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:29,570
curious about you he said and they're

894
00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:31,490
very curious about the people who come

895
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:35,390
here but he said we we and we worry

896
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:38,240
about that he said because we'd like to

897
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:41,570
keep her our old ways which two sides of

898
00:43:47,140 --> 00:43:43,850
those Isabeau importance in yachts at

899
00:43:49,870 --> 00:43:47,150
lon yes yeah that's a lot impact as well

900
00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:49,880
yeah talking to the to the elder and he

901
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:52,790
was telling me how and and the children

902
00:43:59,770 --> 00:43:56,720
you know just run freely and I mean it's

903
00:44:03,250 --> 00:43:59,780
their play area the plaza there have you

904
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:03,260
ever been there a couple times yeah

905
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:04,550
beautiful

906
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:08,210
the only real remaining overlay layer

907
00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:09,940
and it will yep

908
00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:12,500
sounds like a really fascinating journey

909
00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:18,500
here but you know several years sure you

910
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:20,780
said you said you drove 12,000 miles

911
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:23,540
today this I assume it's a number of

912
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:27,020
trips you didn't just get in the car one

913
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:30,830
one trip I did take that was over 3,000

914
00:44:37,810 --> 00:44:33,680
miles just that trip alone but I was on

915
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:37,820
a you know a two-month trip and yeah I

916
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,310
went all the way you know cuz I was in I

917
00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:43,280
went up to Oaxaca you know traveled

918
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:46,280
traveled through the Chiapas up to

919
00:44:52,780 --> 00:44:49,760
Oaxaca and made several side trips from

920
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:52,790
there and went over to play blah and

921
00:44:59,260 --> 00:44:56,570
which was very close to us is very close

922
00:45:02,230 --> 00:44:59,270
to Mexico City you know and so you know

923
00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:02,240
you think of a driving trip across the

924
00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:06,980
sphere of range of mountains you know

925
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:08,200
you're going through all these different

926
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:11,930
ecosystems and you know I mean it was it

927
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:15,410
was quite a trip now just to put this in

928
00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:18,290
perspective was there much variation and

929
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,780
the stories you've heard of the sky

930
00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:22,400
person or the sky people

931
00:45:28,810 --> 00:45:24,740
or was it all remarkably consistent

932
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:28,820
wherever you went what I think there I

933
00:45:34,330 --> 00:45:31,370
think all the stories were fairly

934
00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:34,340
different I think the you know when I

935
00:45:39,490 --> 00:45:36,980
think about the story said America

936
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:39,500
Indians tell or the you know Indians

937
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,280
from the United States as opposed to

938
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:44,800
America that consider themselves

939
00:45:51,070 --> 00:45:47,450
American Indians to or Amerindians

940
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:51,080
because they're you know from

941
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:55,490
Mesoamerica they I think if anything

942
00:46:02,590 --> 00:45:58,010
probably religion has more of an

943
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:02,600
influence on their interpretation in

944
00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:06,290
some cases of what they think Sena

945
00:46:12,849 --> 00:46:08,660
coastal religions are making an inroad

946
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,859
into some of these small villages and so

947
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:15,680
some of them told me that that the the

948
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:17,150
preacher had told them they were from

949
00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:22,790
the devil and so there was more fear

950
00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:25,180
more superstition than what I found

951
00:46:33,849 --> 00:46:30,220
among Indians in the United States but

952
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:33,859
you know the cultures were the culture

953
00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:36,530
is so old there and the some of the

954
00:46:42,130 --> 00:46:38,420
stories they would tell me you know what

955
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:42,140
they would talk about things that had

956
00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:45,050
happened in the past and things that are

957
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:47,030
happening now and they would kind of

958
00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:49,250
meld the two together and I know that

959
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,260
that I was at one site where the hand

960
00:46:59,950 --> 00:46:56,480
prints were on the facade of this this

961
00:47:03,099 --> 00:46:59,960
only standing building than this in this

962
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:03,109
site and this site basically had no name

963
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:07,990
because it hadn't been excavated and and

964
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:10,490
one time the government had said that

965
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:14,720
had built a caretakers Hut there and

966
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:18,650
they were talking about excavating the

967
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:22,750
site but they hadn't excavated it and so

968
00:47:31,570 --> 00:47:26,770
we had my driver and I had stopped there

969
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:31,580
have a little picnic and this elderly

970
00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:34,880
gentleman approached us and identified

971
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:37,100
himself and said that he looked after

972
00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:40,310
this fight and he invited us to his

973
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,580
little place and and and he told me that

974
00:47:47,470 --> 00:47:45,440
he had once been in the United States

975
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:47,480
and so he spoke English quite well and

976
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:50,750
and I gave him some book

977
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:53,990
she had a lot of English novels and

978
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:55,730
things that I gave him some of my books

979
00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:01,040
and and he said for that I will show you

980
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:03,140
around the site he said I have to pay

981
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:05,690
you back so he took me around the site

982
00:48:12,099 --> 00:48:08,390
and there was a facade of a of an

983
00:48:14,830 --> 00:48:12,109
ancient temple it looked like and there

984
00:48:18,490 --> 00:48:14,840
were handprints all across the top of it

985
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:18,500
and and then he began to tell me that

986
00:48:24,849 --> 00:48:23,210
that those handprints he said a lot of

987
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:24,859
people interpret them and say the

988
00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:27,170
handprints were left by those who built

989
00:48:32,410 --> 00:48:28,940
the structure and he says that's not

990
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:32,420
true at all and he went on to explain

991
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:37,760
that the these handprints were from the

992
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:40,310
the people who who traveled the universe

993
00:48:44,859 --> 00:48:42,950
and who who left their handprints

994
00:48:46,780 --> 00:48:44,869
because they were the they were the

995
00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:46,790
collectors of knowledge and the givers

996
00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:53,270
of knowledge and so he was particularly

997
00:49:00,609 --> 00:48:57,470
interested in in setting that record

998
00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:00,619
straight that that and he talked about

999
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:04,270
the things he had learned from the

1000
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,910
shining people of the red hand which is

1001
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:09,680
what he called them the shining people

1002
00:49:16,180 --> 00:49:13,480
of the red hand and that they left their

1003
00:49:18,010 --> 00:49:16,190
handprints so people would know that if

1004
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:18,020
that came after them that they had been

1005
00:49:22,270 --> 00:49:19,460
there and they had collected the

1006
00:49:24,910 --> 00:49:22,280
knowledge the same thing with you know

1007
00:49:27,339 --> 00:49:24,920
Palenque the stories I was told by the

1008
00:49:30,609 --> 00:49:27,349
elders there was if the link' was to be

1009
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:30,619
the storehouse of all the knowledge but

1010
00:49:36,339 --> 00:49:32,020
after it was built

1011
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:36,349
the workers refused to leave and so the

1012
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:39,280
knowledge could not be stored there and

1013
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:44,089
and so Palenque then just became another

1014
00:49:51,579 --> 00:49:48,050
city where you know several thousand

1015
00:49:54,430 --> 00:49:51,589
people made it home but it really was

1016
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:54,440
designed to be the the place of

1017
00:49:59,740 --> 00:49:56,690
knowledge and I thought it was

1018
00:50:02,740 --> 00:49:59,750
interesting because I talked to a Hopi

1019
00:50:03,970 --> 00:50:02,750
elder several years ago who told me that

1020
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:03,980
there is a city in

1021
00:50:11,050 --> 00:50:08,090
South that is red and he said that city

1022
00:50:13,630 --> 00:50:11,060
is the keeper of all the knowledge in

1023
00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:13,640
that cities whereas all the knowledge of

1024
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:16,280
the world is kept well course Palenque

1025
00:50:22,540 --> 00:50:20,450
is south of of Hopi land and so I

1026
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:22,550
couldn't help but think of that while I

1027
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:25,730
was there because at one time Palenque

1028
00:50:31,090 --> 00:50:27,050
was painted red

1029
00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:31,100
you know the entire city so that was a

1030
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:36,260
common practice among the Maya to paint

1031
00:50:41,230 --> 00:50:38,810
their cities red in many cases they used

1032
00:50:43,450 --> 00:50:41,240
mica and so that the city would look

1033
00:50:46,750 --> 00:50:43,460
like a city of gold from the distance in

1034
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:46,760
the sunlight and he told me that the

1035
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:49,490
shining people told him that there are

1036
00:51:00,970 --> 00:50:57,440
67 solar systems in a confederation and

1037
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:00,980
that spacecraft visit the earth every

1038
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:03,470
day there are hundreds of spacecraft but

1039
00:51:09,070 --> 00:51:06,530
he said that right now there are there

1040
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:09,080
certainly mirrors but because our

1041
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:11,450
governments don't have the technology to

1042
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,390
see them I'm gonna ask you about that in

1043
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:16,160
a moment that's an interesting concept

1044
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:19,520
dr. rd6 killer Clark author of sky

1045
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:22,310
people is here and we have our own sky

1046
00:51:30,610 --> 00:51:28,400
person Chris O'Brien with Jeana and

1047
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:30,620
Chris you're in the pillar guest

1048
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1049
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1050
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1051
00:51:51,609 --> 00:51:49,069
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1064
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wheat fabric engraving can bed strips

1065
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1066
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:24,349
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1067
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:25,490
led back at interest

1068
00:52:29,049 --> 00:52:27,230
forcing taxes to surfaced at this

1069
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:29,059
capitalism or was Jefferson correct when

1070
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:30,530
stating a central bank issuing the

1071
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:32,150
public currency is a greater menace to

1072
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:33,290
the liberties of the people than a

1073
00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:35,030
standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

1074
00:52:38,290 --> 00:52:36,470
placing a free silver dollar in a book

1075
00:52:41,799 --> 00:52:38,300
that explains our monetary system call

1076
00:52:45,010 --> 00:52:41,809
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

1077
00:52:46,839 --> 00:52:45,020
to understand the system call 866 to 237

1078
00:52:52,089 --> 00:52:46,849
that's eight hundred six eight six two

1079
00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:52,099
237 for over five years you've been

1080
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:54,440
hearing about the Berkey guy so you may

1081
00:52:58,720 --> 00:52:56,569
know a few things about him for example

1082
00:53:00,760 --> 00:52:58,730
you are well aware of the superior

1083
00:53:03,099 --> 00:53:00,770
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welcome back into the para cast the gold

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here's Jane Steinberg on the para cast

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of Jean and Cris we have dr. rd6 killer

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00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:17,310
Clark and you're telling us here that we

1110
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:18,930
don't have the technology to see the

1111
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:21,089
spaceships that are out there now I'm

1112
00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:23,130
gonna sound like I'm being crazy here or

1113
00:54:28,130 --> 00:54:25,800
being silly or I'm being dismissive I'm

1114
00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:28,140
not are they using because we were

1115
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:29,819
brought up in the Star Trek generation

1116
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:33,089
cloaking devices of some sort well you

1117
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,010
know he didn't go into that and I'm not

1118
00:54:40,940 --> 00:54:37,440
sure I'm sure he's never seen her Star

1119
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:40,950
Trek so I don't think that he he just

1120
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,490
said to me that there are hundreds of

1121
00:54:50,270 --> 00:54:46,400
spaceships that circles the earth every

1122
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:50,280
every day and the car government's do

1123
00:54:54,319 --> 00:54:52,710
not have a technology to see them he

1124
00:54:57,170 --> 00:54:54,329
said they tell me that they're people

1125
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:57,180
actually live on the earth watching and

1126
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:01,520
helping man and helping helping he said

1127
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:02,640
hmm

1128
00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:07,050
he said that they perform many tasks he

1129
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:09,180
told me and he said but they never

1130
00:55:14,569 --> 00:55:11,730
revealed themselves and he said that

1131
00:55:16,790 --> 00:55:14,579
they're gone now and they come in 16

1132
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:16,800
years cycles and he says soon they will

1133
00:55:23,540 --> 00:55:19,890
come again and he said they left in 2000

1134
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,550
so they'll return in 2016 and he said

1135
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,920
then they will stay for 16 years and

1136
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:27,599
then they will leave for 16 years

1137
00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:30,150
recently it was under the assumption

1138
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:33,000
that they went to other places during

1139
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:36,150
that 16 year absence based on what

1140
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:38,550
you're saying here are we assuming a

1141
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:42,030
single race of beings or entities from a

1142
00:55:49,609 --> 00:55:45,930
single civilization remaining about what

1143
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:49,619
he called you know the shining the the

1144
00:56:01,609 --> 00:55:53,130
shining people of the red hand

1145
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:01,619
rosy home pardon was a bad joke oh well

1146
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,099
I think he cuz but they they identified

1147
00:56:12,529 --> 00:56:08,400
themselves as a shining people he told

1148
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,539
me the red handprint were left by those

1149
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:14,640
people so that's why he called him the

1150
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:17,640
shining people the redhead yeah I was

1151
00:56:23,539 --> 00:56:19,890
kind of doing a play on words saying the

1152
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:23,549
shame okay of the rosy palm people he

1153
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:25,740
said in their true state they're

1154
00:56:31,249 --> 00:56:28,920
actually balls of light and he said it's

1155
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:31,259
only when they have some human form can

1156
00:56:35,779 --> 00:56:32,880
you see them and he says otherwise

1157
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,789
you're blinded by them and he said many

1158
00:56:40,009 --> 00:56:37,920
people never know they have met them

1159
00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:40,019
they see balls of light

1160
00:56:45,859 --> 00:56:42,660
he said not realizing they're actually

1161
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:45,869
seeing a living form sort of an energy

1162
00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:49,049
being then this sounds right okay and

1163
00:56:54,140 --> 00:56:51,750
then they can manifest themselves in any

1164
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:54,150
way they want in any way they want

1165
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:56,490
in fact he talked about that he said

1166
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:00,799
that they had told him that that that

1167
00:57:10,009 --> 00:57:05,220
wherever they were whatever world they

1168
00:57:14,859 --> 00:57:10,019
visited they assumed the the form of

1169
00:57:18,259 --> 00:57:14,869
that place and he told me that that they

1170
00:57:23,539 --> 00:57:18,269
said their lifespan was like 800 years

1171
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:23,549
and that he said they said that we were

1172
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:25,710
the only warring planet in this solar

1173
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:27,750
system but there are other planets that

1174
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:29,970
were but they're not in this solar

1175
00:57:37,309 --> 00:57:35,130
system and he said that trying to think

1176
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:37,319
he said there's some planets were

1177
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,569
inhabited to live in the dark ages they

1178
00:57:49,009 --> 00:57:42,240
told him and but there are other planets

1179
00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:49,019
where people are so far advanced that

1180
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,349
they can assume almost any form and

1181
00:57:55,999 --> 00:57:55,440
choose any form simply by using their

1182
00:57:58,279 --> 00:57:56,009
mind

1183
00:58:02,359 --> 00:57:58,289
I would say that our planet is in the

1184
00:58:05,050 --> 00:58:02,369
dark ages still from that description I

1185
00:58:08,690 --> 00:58:05,060
would say so too

1186
00:58:11,870 --> 00:58:08,700
now let's look at this in detail in

1187
00:58:14,740 --> 00:58:11,880
reference to other civilizations here so

1188
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:14,750
we have different concepts of sky people

1189
00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:17,310
advanced beings visiting us in ancient

1190
00:58:24,140 --> 00:58:21,240
times and you have various variations in

1191
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:24,150
the major religions about these advanced

1192
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:27,540
beings gods from space or whatever how

1193
00:58:33,140 --> 00:58:30,570
do we get to the core reality if every

1194
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:33,150
culture has their own interpretation or

1195
00:58:41,630 --> 00:58:36,390
variation on the theme well because I

1196
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:41,640
think that that that star star people

1197
00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:45,210
came the visited desserts on all parts

1198
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,190
of this earth and and and are still

1199
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:53,040
visiting this earth we just they just

1200
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:55,170
don't make themselves known to us like

1201
00:59:01,760 --> 00:58:57,540
he said they they could be right next to

1202
00:59:04,570 --> 00:59:01,770
you and you wouldn't know so basically I

1203
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:04,580
can be having lunch at the local deli

1204
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:09,180
and the person next to me is a human who

1205
00:59:21,290 --> 00:59:11,970
might really be a star person yes it

1206
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:21,300
could be a man tell me this is a is a

1207
00:59:30,290 --> 00:59:26,370
u.s. American Indian man tell me that he

1208
00:59:36,730 --> 00:59:30,300
said have you ever met somebody who was

1209
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:36,740
kind in calm and reserved and never

1210
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:42,810
interfered or never argued or just kind

1211
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:47,130
of let things go by and and spread

1212
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:49,290
nothing but happiness around you and I

1213
00:59:52,340 --> 00:59:50,910
said yeah I met a couple of people like

1214
00:59:55,820 --> 00:59:52,350
that he said well you probably let us

1215
00:59:58,670 --> 00:59:55,830
start person so you know them by their

1216
01:00:03,350 --> 00:59:58,680
attitudes in their behavior well that's

1217
01:00:06,350 --> 01:00:03,360
what he said so I don't know that's what

1218
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:06,360
he told me in Palenque I was told by

1219
01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:09,720
like and on Indian that the reason we

1220
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:12,540
don't see them anymore it's because

1221
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:17,290
we've lost the ability to see

1222
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:19,930
in what sense do we have to have an

1223
01:00:28,380 --> 01:00:23,230
attitude change or what well he said at

1224
01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:28,390
one time everybody had an ability to see

1225
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:30,940
the invisible that's what he told me and

1226
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:33,910
he said they're here but they're

1227
01:00:38,670 --> 01:00:36,730
invisible and if you don't have the

1228
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:38,680
ability to see them you never know

1229
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:42,400
they're here so they can be standing

1230
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:43,810
next to you then and they would be

1231
01:00:47,849 --> 01:00:46,180
invisible right okay

1232
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:47,859
is that true with the craft in which

1233
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:51,450
they travel or do they even use crafts

1234
01:00:59,460 --> 01:00:56,650
I've been told it's not in this book but

1235
01:01:01,830 --> 01:00:59,470
I think a couple of years ago I

1236
01:01:06,930 --> 01:01:01,840
interviewed a man who told me that there

1237
01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:06,940
was a universal highway and that once

1238
01:01:11,609 --> 01:01:09,340
you enter the Universal Highway you just

1239
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,619
think of the place you want to be and

1240
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:13,119
then you're there instantly

1241
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:16,720
sounds like a mental wormhole and he

1242
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:19,030
said that that's how they travel all

1243
01:01:30,050 --> 01:01:22,810
these great distances and he was telling

1244
01:01:33,870 --> 01:01:30,060
me about an encounter he had in Iraq

1245
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:33,880
when he was in the military and he said

1246
01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:35,710
that you know right after he finished

1247
01:01:40,109 --> 01:01:37,630
basic training he was shipped to a rock

1248
01:01:44,220 --> 01:01:40,119
and he know more than the landed there

1249
01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:44,230
the neath were sent to this remote area

1250
01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:47,140
where rumor had it that Saddam Hussein

1251
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:51,100
was hiding out and he said when they got

1252
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:54,640
there they encountered an ambush and he

1253
01:01:59,730 --> 01:01:57,730
said they he was crouched down behind a

1254
01:02:04,470 --> 01:01:59,740
building that a sniper was on a roof

1255
01:02:07,050 --> 01:02:04,480
across across from him on a rooftop

1256
01:02:09,330 --> 01:02:07,060
across from him and he said he was

1257
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:09,340
trying to figure out how he was going to

1258
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:11,950
get to safety so he could and he said he

1259
01:02:19,410 --> 01:02:16,050
stumbled into this vacant building and

1260
01:02:23,099 --> 01:02:19,420
all of a sudden he's in this tunnel and

1261
01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:23,109
he enters the tunnel and is greeted by

1262
01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:26,560
this beam that offers to take him away

1263
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:30,070
from this battle and when he told the

1264
01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:31,089
beam that he could

1265
01:02:37,859 --> 01:02:35,190
do that because first of all it would be

1266
01:02:41,749 --> 01:02:37,869
desertion and secondly he couldn't leave

1267
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:41,759
his comrades the beam was very

1268
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:44,710
interested in why he felt such loyalty

1269
01:02:52,349 --> 01:02:49,930
to to his buddies they they seemed to be

1270
01:02:54,089 --> 01:02:52,359
totally unfamiliar with that concept he

1271
01:02:56,339 --> 01:02:54,099
said did you despite what the beam

1272
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:56,349
looked like let's do our break here and

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then on the other side we'll find out

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the answer to Chris's question about

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what the being looked like our guest is

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dr. rd6 killer Clark the book is called

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sky people but more than that it's got a

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subtitle a math subtitle is untold

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stories of alien encounters in

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Mesoamerica then we're hearing a lot of

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fascinating tales on this episode we'll

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that there was a glow about them but

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that they had they were humanoid form

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about same height as he was and he said

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they were and he was about six feet tall

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that he only saw one but he did see the

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craft part he said that once he entered

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this tunnel and he said it was very cool

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and and it was such a reprieve from the

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heat outside and and he said there they

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had a crash there wasn't I but he said

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it was the tunnel opened up into an area

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that was like two or three football

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told the beam he couldn't go with him

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that being said well we'll return

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tomorrow and if you change your mind

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we'll take you home and he said that he

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laughed and and he said he was tempted

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to go back but he never did yeah it kind

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of reminds me of Travis Waltons

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experience where he was aboard his ship

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and he went and I think down a corridor

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into a room that opened up and was a

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huge like hangar that was impossibly

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large for the size of the craft that he

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thought he was aboard but there was some

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sort of weird either he was brought

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somewhere else and wasn't aboard the

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craft again or there was some sort of

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weird sized dilation aboard this crash

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that enabled it to have such a large

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space within such a small craft well you

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know I had a pilot tell me and it was an

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Indian but he was a pilot out here one

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of these small airports in Montana and

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he told me being abducted by this

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enormous spacecraft and that when they

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took him they took him and his little

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playing and that when he was inside this

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01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:23,500
thing it was like a warehouse and there

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01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:25,510
were other planes and other vehicles

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there and he said it was simply enormous

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that this craft that he was in yeah let

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me uh look at our question Bank here and

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we'll go ahead and fire some questions

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out at you when we announced your post

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we put up a threat at forum dr parra

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cast comm RT that allows our listeners

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to ask questions and and we have a

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number of them here one that I have

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01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:52,420
before I get to our listener questions

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01:10:59,940 --> 01:10:55,450
has to do with the legend of the temple

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01:11:03,900 --> 01:10:59,950
of the magician's in me small yeah and

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01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:03,910
in that that particular interesting

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structure legend has it was built in one

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:10,450
night by these small kind of dwarf type

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of entities that are called I think a

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lucious or elect he's not sure how you

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Alisha's right and that these these

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beings came and actually literally built

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this huge complex in in a single night

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:29,230
did you investigate that particular

1448
01:11:38,580 --> 01:11:34,210
story talk to the elders about that

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01:11:40,830 --> 01:11:38,590
story and and there's several different

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elders and of course the story buried a

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01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:44,620
little bit but you know the there there

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01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:47,860
was a prophecy that there would be a

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ruler of Schmoll who would not be born

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01:11:59,850 --> 01:11:57,340
of woman and the story was that this

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01:12:04,550 --> 01:11:59,860
dwarf was born

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was hatched from an egg by a witch and

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01:12:12,270 --> 01:12:09,430
he challenged the king of Ooo Shmuel and

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:12,280
the king told him well if you can build

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a pyramid overnight you can become the

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01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:18,790
king of Ooo small and then mysteriously

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:23,230
the next day this pyramid was built men

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01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:25,570
and it's unlike anything it's built in

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01:12:31,770 --> 01:12:28,540
that part of the part you know and of

1464
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:31,780
any of the Maya temples you know me it's

1465
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:34,000
just amazing this it's kind of a round

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01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:38,850
structure if you've been there right and

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01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:42,840
and you know that it's an unusual

1468
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pyramid and but some of the elders told

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me that he had helped from flying

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01:12:57,930 --> 01:12:53,200
machines that brought all the materials

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01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:57,940
and helped him build it others did the

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:00,400
story just ended there they had nothing

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:03,730
to add okay well I have some questions

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here we're gonna start with some

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questions from psychedelic Alchemist and

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he said that he really enjoyed your

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first book and he's definitely gonna be

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picking up a copy of the new book but

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his first question is how much credence

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01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:17,980
do you give to tales of star people how

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do you differentiate between reports

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that are genuine and those that have

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just fabricated or maybe maybe stories

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that have been passed down and then

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01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:26,320
altered in time

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well the only reason I collect the

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ancient stories is because I'm

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interested in you know the historical

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01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:38,890
part of the star people's stories

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01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:42,100
because we have them in American Indians

1491
01:13:48,420 --> 01:13:44,350
have many stories of visitors from the

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sky and so I find this just interesting

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01:13:53,250 --> 01:13:51,370
to collect those stories and and they

1494
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,260
may have changed over time but they are

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01:13:58,170 --> 01:13:55,840
their ancient stories that are passed on

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:13:58,180
orally and any time you know oral

1497
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:01,090
tradition does allow for some changes

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as far as the credibility of people

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you know I hate to say that I'm this

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person that to know if you're lying or

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01:14:25,330 --> 01:14:22,610
not but you know I am a I am a

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psychologist and I have a pretty good

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read on people and I think and all the

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people who have ever told me stories I

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always felt the two of them aren't

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telling the truth I was pretty sure they

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weren't telling the truth

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the people that I interview have no

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reason to lie I don't use real names I

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don't you know I'm not into that of

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letting people know who they are because

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they would then be bombarded with you

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01:14:58,140 --> 01:14:56,090
know other researchers going there and

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01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:58,150
trying to find out specific information

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I'm a social scientist so they don't

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have to show me Marx Ana where our

1517
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spacecraft landed I'm just interested in

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their stories and I tell the stories as

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they tell them to me and I believe the

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stories to be true and that's just what

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I do well it kind of leads me to a

1522
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second question and that is have you

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01:15:28,299 --> 01:15:25,489
ever encountered any hard evidence

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01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:28,309
besides witness testimony the points of

1525
01:15:34,750 --> 01:15:31,280
reality yeah a couple of times you know

1526
01:15:37,089 --> 01:15:34,760
I've been taken to places where there

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were circles burned circles in the in

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the ground where you know in my first

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book he pries he read that you know he

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probably remembers the story of Leland

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where Leland took me out into his field

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and showed me where this spacecraft

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would hover over his field and and there

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was a burn circle in the ground and on

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the ground and he said you know nothing

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will grow here and then tracks leading

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car tracks leading to the highway and

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you know and he said you know I don't

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have an automobile no one around here is

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an automobile and that's the automobile

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they let down you know and let and drive

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Cadillacs they are they're driving

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have here okay question three he wants

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to know if these tales of sky gods or

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star people or just miss the height a

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01:21:58,589 --> 01:21:55,940
deeper more down-to-earth explanation I

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01:22:04,350 --> 01:21:58,599
don't believe so I think these are

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01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:04,360
accurate event of what occurred I think

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01:22:09,569 --> 01:22:07,340
we've been visited by star people for

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you know since the beginning that time

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mm-hmm so I don't I don't think it's a

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01:22:20,109 --> 01:22:17,719
imaginary or I you know I see yeah

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that's one of the problems I think

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that's that's happened over the

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centuries is that when you when you

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approach seeing scientifically and you

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01:22:34,330 --> 01:22:31,159
say I've got to have evidence I've got

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01:22:37,180 --> 01:22:34,340
to have proof or I don't believe it

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01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:37,190
what you're doing is you're throwing out

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01:22:47,459 --> 01:22:43,249
all of the narratives and and the the

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01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:47,469
history of people for generations and

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01:22:55,029 --> 01:22:52,249
and I choose not to do that and and now

1683
01:22:58,810 --> 01:22:55,039
I you know a NASA is paying a lot of

1684
01:23:01,870 --> 01:22:58,820
attention to to these stories when I was

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01:23:06,430 --> 01:23:01,880
at university I we had some visitors

1686
01:23:08,259 --> 01:23:06,440
from NASA come to MSU and and and the

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01:23:10,989 --> 01:23:08,269
Dean called me up to his office and

1688
01:23:13,870 --> 01:23:10,999
introduced ting introduce them to me and

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01:23:18,009 --> 01:23:13,880
and and what they were interested in

1690
01:23:20,919 --> 01:23:18,019
were Indian legends about the stars and

1691
01:23:23,410 --> 01:23:20,929
star visitors and if you go on the NASA

1692
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,420
website you'll find the

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01:23:29,919 --> 01:23:25,760
they have a whole section there devoted

1694
01:23:32,890 --> 01:23:29,929
to a Native American connection to the

1695
01:23:35,530 --> 01:23:32,900
cosmos so you've got people like NASA

1696
01:23:37,450 --> 01:23:35,540
you've got a lot of modern-day

1697
01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:37,460
archaeologists are starting to look at

1698
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:40,270
these stories and say hey you know this

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01:23:47,140 --> 01:23:44,960
this is is bears out in what we're

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01:23:49,209 --> 01:23:47,150
finding what we're uncovering the

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01:23:52,030 --> 01:23:49,219
stories that had been disregarded for

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01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:52,040
you know for a couple of centuries all

1703
01:23:59,950 --> 01:23:54,830
of a sudden are making a lot of sense

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01:24:02,500 --> 01:23:59,960
and so I I'm just a believer and I

1705
01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:02,510
believe the stories are accurate well

1706
01:24:06,850 --> 01:24:03,980
when the authorities start taking it

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01:24:08,620 --> 01:24:06,860
seriously you have to assume it's more

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01:24:11,979 --> 01:24:08,630
than just a bunch of tall tales passed

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01:24:13,660 --> 01:24:11,989
on from fog or the Sun etc well maybe

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01:24:15,459 --> 01:24:13,670
even talking about going up to the

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01:24:17,979 --> 01:24:15,469
Blackfeet Indian Reservation here in

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01:24:21,370 --> 01:24:17,989
Montana and building us some kind of a

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01:24:24,459 --> 01:24:21,380
sinner for the collection of the Indian

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01:24:26,830 --> 01:24:24,469
knowledge and and about the Stars and

1715
01:24:29,919 --> 01:24:26,840
the Emmy a nurse and you know bringing

1716
01:24:33,070 --> 01:24:29,929
all that that information together and I

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01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:33,080
had given them some names you know as

1718
01:24:38,820 --> 01:24:35,630
well of course the travel chairman you

1719
01:24:41,530 --> 01:24:38,830
know I I knew him quite well and and

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01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:41,540
some of my graduate students would be

1721
01:24:44,919 --> 01:24:43,370
good contacts with him it and they

1722
01:24:48,130 --> 01:24:44,929
actually went there but nothing ever

1723
01:24:51,060 --> 01:24:48,140
came of of any building or anything so

1724
01:24:56,620 --> 01:24:51,070
there is a tremendous interest there and

1725
01:24:59,500 --> 01:24:56,630
I think that that in disregarding it for

1726
01:25:04,630 --> 01:24:59,510
you know the past two or three hundred

1727
01:25:07,330 --> 01:25:04,640
years since you know scientific

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01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:07,340
knowledge became more prominent because

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if he couldn't prove something the

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01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:13,400
scientists didn't want to hear it I mean

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:15,710
that was that was just stories to them

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01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:19,330
that wasn't replicating that data is

1733
01:25:24,939 --> 01:25:22,670
another matter well yeah you know how

1734
01:25:26,380 --> 01:25:24,949
are you gonna how are you gonna prove

1735
01:25:31,260 --> 01:25:26,390
any of that and it's the same thing

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01:25:34,540 --> 01:25:31,270
today you know you look at at all the

1737
01:25:36,770 --> 01:25:34,550
researchers today they go out and and

1738
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:36,780
they want you know proof

1739
01:25:42,890 --> 01:25:39,840
well you know that's one of the reasons

1740
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,900
why people don't talk to them because

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01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:46,080
they say well you know where's the

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01:25:51,620 --> 01:25:48,930
indentation in the in the ground where

1743
01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:51,630
is this where is that so they don't have

1744
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:53,910
anything there telling you what happened

1745
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,290
and and I think that's the reason why

1746
01:26:03,380 --> 01:26:00,560
this information hasn't been forthcoming

1747
01:26:10,340 --> 01:26:03,390
earlier is because people just don't

1748
01:26:12,980 --> 01:26:10,350
take the time to listen and to collect

1749
01:26:15,860 --> 01:26:12,990
the stories and that's what I'd like to

1750
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:15,870
do let me ask you here just theorizing

1751
01:26:22,940 --> 01:26:20,010
for a moment we have all these reports

1752
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:22,950
descriptions possibly anecdotes of the

1753
01:26:27,860 --> 01:26:25,770
presence of sky people is there anything

1754
01:26:30,650 --> 01:26:27,870
we could do today if they're still

1755
01:26:34,490 --> 01:26:30,660
around to try to gather evidence that

1756
01:26:38,260 --> 01:26:34,500
scientists would accept I don't know

1757
01:26:40,940 --> 01:26:38,270
that's that's a good question because

1758
01:26:43,460 --> 01:26:40,950
what does MUFON look for they always

1759
01:26:46,730 --> 01:26:43,470
look for evidence don't they what do all

1760
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:46,740
the leading writers and researchers look

1761
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:49,950
for they always look for evidence you

1762
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,330
know somebody said to me well why didn't

1763
01:27:00,080 --> 01:26:56,400
you take a picture with your with your

1764
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:00,090
with your camera you know I don't even

1765
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,610
have a chance not my camera I don't even

1766
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:05,520
have with my telephone I don't even have

1767
01:27:09,500 --> 01:27:07,890
a telephone that takes a picture you

1768
01:27:12,530 --> 01:27:09,510
know I have one of those cheap

1769
01:27:15,050 --> 01:27:12,540
telephones because I don't I'm not

1770
01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:15,060
interested in that kind of technology

1771
01:27:23,540 --> 01:27:19,980
you know I just have a tracfone and it

1772
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:23,550
serves me well and so I'm not in you

1773
01:27:31,370 --> 01:27:27,060
know when I travel I travel very lately

1774
01:27:36,490 --> 01:27:31,380
and I try to in many places I try to

1775
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:36,500
dress like the women there I am always

1776
01:27:42,530 --> 01:27:40,170
tried to not stand out so much obviously

1777
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:42,540
I do stand out they know I'm a stranger

1778
01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:46,050
or they've heard of Who I am you know

1779
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,860
but on the other hand I I tried to

1780
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:54,480
blend into the community as much as

1781
01:28:01,640 --> 01:27:57,770
possible I participate in celebrations I

1782
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:01,650
participate in dancing and going into

1783
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:04,710
homes and and sharing food with them and

1784
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:06,210
they're sharing food with me

1785
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:08,940
and that's how I get stories that other

1786
01:28:15,169 --> 01:28:12,690
people have failed to get so the point

1787
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:15,179
is they trust you they feel you're one

1788
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:18,449
of them I see Senate that yeah I think

1789
01:28:22,419 --> 01:28:20,610
that's the big thing so if someone comes

1790
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:22,429
in there with a skeptical attitude

1791
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:27,000
dismissive anything yeah I asked him

1792
01:28:33,129 --> 01:28:29,130
what they thought it was von Daniken and

1793
01:28:36,979 --> 01:28:33,139
and his you know all of his books and

1794
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:36,989
about his assessment and they said well

1795
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:41,489
you know he's just a lay men making

1796
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:44,130
money off of us but he never asked us

1797
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:47,250
what we thought and I think I was pretty

1798
01:28:56,060 --> 01:28:50,510
first one that really asked and I think

1799
01:28:59,200 --> 01:28:56,070
that in itself was you know made them

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01:29:02,810 --> 01:28:59,210
feel good about about talking to me I

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met with one elder who who told me he

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said I keep everything very low-key he

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says he said I never carry a weapon only

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a machete because if I ever get caught

1805
01:29:24,620 --> 01:29:18,510
by the police they won't have anything

1806
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:24,630
to charge me with several elders told me

1807
01:29:29,959 --> 01:29:28,110
that that they said you know the same

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01:29:36,250 --> 01:29:29,969
thing that happened to the Maya could

1809
01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:36,260
happen to the USA 3,000 years from now

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01:29:44,569 --> 01:29:39,780
your Statue of Liberty's could be called

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the the goddess of fire you have all

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01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:47,880
kinds of gods in New York City this one

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01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:50,639
one elder told me he says I've been to

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01:29:57,020 --> 01:29:54,960
New York City and I spoke at the UN and

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01:29:59,180 --> 01:29:57,030
there are kinds of gods and he's talking

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01:30:01,020 --> 01:29:59,190
about all these statues that he saw

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01:30:04,290 --> 01:30:01,030
around New York City

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01:30:07,170 --> 01:30:04,300
all transit gods there and he says three

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01:30:09,660 --> 01:30:07,180
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civilization is gone and a new and is

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01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:12,520
coming along they will have all these

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01:30:16,530 --> 01:30:14,730
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archaeologists are going to be digging

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[Music]

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with gene and with Chris on the power

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castes we have dr. rd6 killer Clark and

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we're going to solve the mystery we're

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half a segment suddenly up and

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disappeared so we're going to have to

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repeat the word okay so we're talking

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about what might happen 3,000 years from

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now where our civilization doesn't

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survive for any reason dr. Clark and

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therefore we pick up the artifacts the

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remnants the relics they have a lot of

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movies like that of course where we look

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at the remnants of our civilization and

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doesn't last and you kind of look at

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construction nowadays just normal homes

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and within 20 or 30 years they're pretty

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well shot I mean they won't be here you

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know hundred years let alone 3,000 well

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because we don't make some we don't make

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that make too many of them are stoned

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you know I mean we build our houses

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mainly in wood so if you go to the

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villages of the Maya today you'll see

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they build their houses us don't they

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were smarter than we were hurricanes

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wiser way up and of course you know it

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when you go into these villages and you

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go to a Maya house you know some of them

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still live in the truth in the old

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traditional homes where they you know

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they built their houses out of these

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sticks and the air would flow through

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and and of course you still see that you

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see the also see more of the cinderblock

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homes

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there's no floor that you know the

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floors dirt the women cook on a every

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home I was in they were women just had

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rocks and a man attend a piece of tent

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across and a little fire underneath and

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that's what they cooked and many of them

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had pigs in the backyard and a lot of

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different kinds of fruit trees they they

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a very simple life but there they were

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very happy people and you know many

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times they would take me around and show

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me this is this herb and this is what we

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use it for and they even show me in the

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jungle what plant to take to make

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alcohol they said this is what we used

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to make alcohol but it was a I think

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that you know the point is is that when

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we are on the outside and we're trying

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to define a people and we take nothing

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that they say as fact it's all just

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myths and stories and then we look at

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that civilization that has fallen 3,000

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years ago or 4,000 years ago and we say

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oh this is what they were doing or this

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is how they lived or this is what they

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thought and what the elder was pointing

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out to me he said you know I have spoken

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at the UN he said I've been to New York

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City and he said you have a lot of gods

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in New York City and he was talking

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about all the statues that were around

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New York City and he said one day when

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this civilization is gone someone would

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dig up the Statue of Liberty and more

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called her the goddess goddess of fire

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and I thought that was kind of

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appropriate you know there's probably

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what happened it's a question of how

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long this civilization will last and

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what's going to bring it down well that

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brings up an interesting point about the

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Spanish when they encountered what they

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considered to be the work of the devil a

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lot of the idolatry and the languages

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and the codices most if not all were

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burned but lately I've been hearing

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rumblings

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my brother has a quite a very

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well-established travel service to the

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Maya lands and one thing that they've

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heard rumored is that the Maya were able

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to score

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away quite a quite a number of codices

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that have the lost knowledge of the Maya

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and they've been hiding them in caves in

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Guatemala around Shilla in other places

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towards the Pacific side of Guatemala

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the Pacific coast and wasn't that

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something that Erich von däniken wrote

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about and then he he said that this this

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man took him in and this man said that

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that did not happen that it wasn't true

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and von Daniken he completely denied

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everything that von Daniken was saying

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that there was that that that did not

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exist and he didn't and von Daniken it

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says repented I think and said you know

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no he didn't go into the cave and but

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that's what I've read right but that was

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in these early 70s this is all around

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the time period of 2012 and and the end

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of this particular cycle of the Mayan

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Long Count calendar and there is some

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tantalizing rumors within within certain

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aspects of the ceremonial community of

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the Maya the time keepers that that some

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of this knowledge has been saved and

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it's the most closely guarded secret of

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the culture now in and that these could

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be you know it could be I I don't think

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it's something they're going to share no

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no I don't think they're ready if it

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does exist you know because I've

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participated in several their ceremonies

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there and you know it's it they have

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held on to those ancient traditions and

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there seems to be in almost every

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village that I was again there seem to

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be at least one person that knew how to

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conduct those attainment religions and

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and and those ancient ceremonies I'm

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sorry and I remember that you know what

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they they have nine bowls that they use

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in their ceremonies

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and they position them in a certain way

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and they put corn in them and they drink

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corn milk as a part of the ceremony they

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chant in the Mayan language and they

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told me the reason for this is that they

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are talking to the people in the in the

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heavens in the sky and that that is

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their language that they speak their

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language and so they have to talk to

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them in their language I participated in

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another ceremony that was supposed to be

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able to the the priest told me that he

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would be able to he saw me and he

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approached me and and out of nowhere and

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he said you know I I need to perform a

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ceremony for you because I want to I

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want to find out what your now way as

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well I was to discover that that that is

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if I'm going to be successful in in what

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I'm trying to do and he said I feel very

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compelled to do this for you and and so

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he took me up on this little hill and he

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performed this ceremony and he my god

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explained to me that he was this huge

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fire and and the guide explained to me

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that and he was chanting in Maya too and

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talking to the star people and he

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explained it that the fire reaches to

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the heavens and the voices and the fire

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carries the voice voices to the heavens

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and then the smoke brings the voices of

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the star people back to earth and and

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01:43:33,470 --> 01:43:31,080
they they tell him you know what my

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01:43:35,570 --> 01:43:33,480
future will be I'm gonna ask a silly

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01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:35,580
question based on what you just said

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01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,730
is there a way for us to contact the

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star people and say come on down here

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we've got a heap of trouble

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well from what I understand the star

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people practice a doctrine of

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non-interference and so I don't think

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they're likely at least the ones that

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could help us that's not that not

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talking about the you know because I've

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had elders tell me that I said well what

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about those who abduct people and they

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said well they don't follow the the

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agreed-upon doctrine and we have no

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control over that but we expect that

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that everyone would practice that

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doctrine of non-air Ference but is in

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the mere fact they you see them in

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01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:27,280
action is that interference to some

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degree I I suppose but that could be

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true you know if you but if they if they

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are not changing history or or perhaps

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not changing of the earth or damaging

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the earth in any way I don't know if

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that's non energy I always thought it

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was interesting when I first heard that

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because I think that's something that I

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find in indigenous cultures to is that

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practicing of non-interference I read I

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read graduate students at the University

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01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:08,440
come to me and say are you going to

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South Dakota this weekend and we're

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01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:14,470
going to have you answer okay that

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question a moment dr. rt6 killer Clark

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is with us Jean Steinberg he's Chris

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not just an alternative to the

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mainstream media we're the premier

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independent talk radio network we are G

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C end this is Dan pilla do you owe the

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01:45:42,859 --> 01:45:40,889
IRS money you can't pay our tax that's

2139
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:42,869
crippling you I've defended people from

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01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:44,400
the IRS for over 30 years

2141
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:46,320
I've helped thousands and I can help you

2142
01:45:49,970 --> 01:45:48,449
too I wrote the book on IRS settlement

2143
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:49,980
and I'm telling you there's no such

2144
01:45:55,669 --> 01:45:53,250
thing as a hopeless case call 834 no tax

2145
01:45:57,530 --> 01:45:55,679
to finally get free of IRS debt with the

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IRS as new programs there's never been a

2147
01:46:03,649 --> 01:45:59,400
better time to solve your problem call

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834 no tax that's 803 for no tax or my

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01:46:08,780 --> 01:46:07,380
website Dan pillow comm hi this is Ted

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01:46:10,820 --> 01:46:08,790
Anderson have you ever wondered why

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01:46:12,770 --> 01:46:10,830
banks stockbrokers investment advisors

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01:46:15,140 --> 01:46:12,780
won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

2153
01:46:16,879 --> 01:46:15,150
available since 1986 yet the financial

2154
01:46:18,169 --> 01:46:16,889
industry won't recognize the value of

2155
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:18,179
gold for your retirement

2156
01:46:22,220 --> 01:46:20,130
gold has outperformed paper investments

2157
01:46:24,339 --> 01:46:22,230
yet no word about IRAs if you would like

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01:46:27,649 --> 01:46:24,349
to have gold for your retirement call

2159
01:46:29,979 --> 01:46:27,659
866 to 237 don't get left behind by

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01:46:52,810 --> 01:46:29,989
rising inflation and low returns call

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01:46:52,820 --> 01:46:58,700
1-866-462-1922

2162
01:47:04,729 --> 01:47:00,979
entrees eggs fruits and vegetables yes

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01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:04,739
20 to 25% off now also receive 30% off

2164
01:47:08,660 --> 01:47:06,510
other selected mountain house foods and

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01:47:10,820 --> 01:47:08,670
receive 30% off selected pack away bran

2166
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:10,830
dehydrated foods just call eight six six

2167
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:12,810
four oh four three six six three and ask

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01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:15,030
for the freeze dry guy plus long-range

2169
01:47:18,979 --> 01:47:17,040
patrol raishin eggs and ham at superb

2170
01:47:21,050 --> 01:47:18,989
discounts but these are extremely hard

2171
01:47:23,540 --> 01:47:21,060
to find and nearly gone so call today

2172
01:47:24,979 --> 01:47:23,550
ask about our lrp ice cream bars to some

2173
01:47:26,810 --> 01:47:24,989
items limit it to stock on hand and

2174
01:47:28,010 --> 01:47:26,820
remember the priests dry guy pays for

2175
01:47:28,939 --> 01:47:28,020
shipping to your door within the lower

2176
01:47:29,740 --> 01:47:28,949
48 states

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01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:29,750
order now

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01:47:33,130 --> 01:47:31,010
is out in the freeze dry guys

2179
01:47:35,170 --> 01:47:33,140
end-of-year case left sale call eight

2180
01:47:37,660 --> 01:47:35,180
six six four oh four three six six three

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01:47:42,210 --> 01:47:37,670
or visit freeze dry guy calm

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01:47:48,010 --> 01:47:44,280
[Applause]

2183
01:47:52,319 --> 01:47:48,020
welcome back into the para cast the gold

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01:48:00,729 --> 01:47:52,329
standard of paranormal radio and now

2185
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:00,739
here's Jane Steinberg Artie tell us

2186
01:48:04,839 --> 01:48:03,170
about the news

2187
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:04,849
are you going to self decoder you go

2188
01:48:09,370 --> 01:48:07,520
into going to North Dakota you know or

2189
01:48:12,490 --> 01:48:09,380
they want to know what my travel

2190
01:48:15,180 --> 01:48:12,500
schedule is and so I would say whether I

2191
01:48:17,890 --> 01:48:15,190
was going or not or what I was doing

2192
01:48:19,450 --> 01:48:17,900
then they just sit there my office and

2193
01:48:24,450 --> 01:48:19,460
they might ask me another question

2194
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:24,460
finally I just say do you need a ride

2195
01:48:30,700 --> 01:48:27,199
you know do you need to go where I'm

2196
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:30,710
going well yeah often if it isn't out of

2197
01:48:35,649 --> 01:48:33,110
your way or if it and I first

2198
01:48:38,410 --> 01:48:35,659
encountered this or as a group of elders

2199
01:48:40,839 --> 01:48:38,420
in a town called the Eagle Butte and

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01:48:42,910 --> 01:48:40,849
there were some carpenters across the

2201
01:48:45,939 --> 01:48:42,920
road that were building a house and

2202
01:48:48,819 --> 01:48:45,949
these three elders were sitting on this

2203
01:48:50,890 --> 01:48:48,829
wall and I walked over to where they

2204
01:48:54,220 --> 01:48:50,900
were and they said you know they're

2205
01:48:55,629 --> 01:48:54,230
doing that all wrong and I said well who

2206
01:48:57,819 --> 01:48:55,639
are you talking about he said those

2207
01:49:00,069 --> 01:48:57,829
carpenters they said the first time a

2208
01:49:02,290 --> 01:49:00,079
wind comes this is what's gonna happen

2209
01:49:05,589 --> 01:49:02,300
and I said well why don't you tell them

2210
01:49:08,260 --> 01:49:05,599
and they said oh no let them do it their

2211
01:49:13,149 --> 01:49:08,270
way and it's not gonna not going to mess

2212
01:49:16,359 --> 01:49:13,159
with that and I see that a lot among

2213
01:49:17,500 --> 01:49:16,369
indigenous people that idea if even if

2214
01:49:20,260 --> 01:49:17,510
you know somebody's doing something

2215
01:49:22,450 --> 01:49:20,270
wrong you let them learn from it you let

2216
01:49:24,490 --> 01:49:22,460
them make their mistakes and learn from

2217
01:49:26,649 --> 01:49:24,500
it and not interfere with the process

2218
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:26,659
and I don't know if that's a direct

2219
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:29,360
connection because of being either

2220
01:49:34,180 --> 01:49:31,730
descendants of the Scot people or the

2221
01:49:36,729 --> 01:49:34,190
Scot people being their ancestors or

2222
01:49:38,919 --> 01:49:36,739
whether this God people are just people

2223
01:49:40,959 --> 01:49:38,929
who come and help from time to time

2224
01:49:45,310 --> 01:49:40,969
well the sky people are their ancestors

2225
01:49:47,589 --> 01:49:45,320
they interfered well if you believe the

2226
01:49:50,770 --> 01:49:47,599
Maya many of Maya tell me they are the

2227
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:50,780
star people that they changed their

2228
01:49:57,299 --> 01:49:54,290
ancestors came here and stayed and that

2229
01:50:00,060 --> 01:49:57,309
they didn't this ancient astronaut

2230
01:50:01,770 --> 01:50:00,070
didn't come and enslave the Maya and

2231
01:50:05,010 --> 01:50:01,780
make them build these cities and then

2232
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,020
head off to another planet that they

2233
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:07,679
came to earth they liked what they saw

2234
01:50:13,620 --> 01:50:10,480
they built their cities and they studied

2235
01:50:18,299 --> 01:50:13,630
they found the daughters of man to be

2236
01:50:20,819 --> 01:50:18,309
fair well Artie let's say we've been

2237
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:20,829
talking a lot about star people how

2238
01:50:26,580 --> 01:50:24,400
about this very rich tradition dealing

2239
01:50:29,010 --> 01:50:26,590
with the underground and in cave systems

2240
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:29,020
in the Maya of the land it's called she

2241
01:50:36,169 --> 01:50:32,110
bill by it's where you spirit goes after

2242
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:36,179
this incarnation to then rebirth into

2243
01:50:43,620 --> 01:50:40,210
into a new incarnation now what kind of

2244
01:50:46,649 --> 01:50:43,630
stories and beans do we see in these

2245
01:50:51,390 --> 01:50:46,659
traditional stories and myths relating

2246
01:50:53,250 --> 01:50:51,400
to underground scenarios about the

2247
01:50:58,979 --> 01:50:53,260
passing to kabbalah right

2248
01:51:01,830 --> 01:50:58,989
I mean entities that in that space the

2249
01:51:05,069 --> 01:51:01,840
weeds monster and in other entities well

2250
01:51:07,649 --> 01:51:05,079
you know III got no information on that

2251
01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:07,659
at all I you know I wasn't asking about

2252
01:51:15,029 --> 01:51:12,670
you know after death or after death

2253
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:15,039
experiences or the death process or

2254
01:51:22,169 --> 01:51:18,250
anything so I don't have any information

2255
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:22,179
on that I can't respond to that so how

2256
01:51:28,589 --> 01:51:25,599
about subterranean dwellers there's a

2257
01:51:31,049 --> 01:51:28,599
fairly rich tradition of entities that

2258
01:51:34,020 --> 01:51:31,059
live underground and come out at night

2259
01:51:37,859 --> 01:51:34,030
for instance Julie say is there one

2260
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:37,869
example of that well the Aleutians are

2261
01:51:45,330 --> 01:51:41,199
little people and they you know live in

2262
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:45,340
the jungle and I was at a play place

2263
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:48,250
called El Rey which is on the outskirts

2264
01:51:55,529 --> 01:51:52,480
of Cancun and Stevens and Catherwood had

2265
01:51:59,160 --> 01:51:55,539
passed by that place but they decided

2266
01:52:01,470 --> 01:51:59,170
that the structures were so small that

2267
01:52:03,330 --> 01:52:01,480
it wasn't worth putting into port and

2268
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:03,340
going and checking it out so they just

2269
01:52:09,359 --> 01:52:06,489
passed it on by and so I wanted to go

2270
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:09,369
over and take a look at El Rey and I met

2271
01:52:16,170 --> 01:52:11,370
this man on the beach

2272
01:52:18,510 --> 01:52:16,180
um and my cab driver took me over there

2273
01:52:20,490 --> 01:52:18,520
because I got his cap I said you know

2274
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:20,500
usually anybody around here that knows

2275
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:22,930
anything about the little people of El

2276
01:52:27,780 --> 01:52:25,510
Rey and he took me to this this guy who

2277
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:27,790
lives on the beach and he was telling me

2278
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:30,010
that he said were the little people you

2279
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:33,520
know they can take any form and and so

2280
01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:36,880
he was telling me that that they live in

2281
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,860
the jungle but he said you know he still

2282
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:40,960
believed that they I said well do they

2283
01:52:46,350 --> 01:52:43,510
still live in El Rey and he said well I

2284
01:52:47,940 --> 01:52:46,360
told you they they did then all these

2285
01:52:49,140 --> 01:52:47,950
tourists took me out here looking for

2286
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,150
them

2287
01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:51,280
he said the Aleutians are they're

2288
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:54,460
capable of many disguises he said much

2289
01:52:58,410 --> 01:52:56,770
of the time they masquerade as lifeless

2290
01:53:01,410 --> 01:52:58,420
forms but he said they could also

2291
01:53:05,190 --> 01:53:01,420
impersonate snakes and monkeys and

2292
01:53:08,610 --> 01:53:05,200
parrots and bats and turtles but he said

2293
01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:08,620
mostly they impersonate the iguana now

2294
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:10,750
think about it if you've ever been to

2295
01:53:17,730 --> 01:53:13,450
Tulum and seen the bastion iguana or

2296
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:17,740
even in in El Rey it's the same thing

2297
01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:22,660
bündchen he said pardon you see him

2298
01:53:27,540 --> 01:53:25,750
everywhere they're everywhere and he

2299
01:53:28,290 --> 01:53:27,550
said that the little people like to

2300
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:28,300
impersonate

2301
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:32,110
iguana and he said that that people just

2302
01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:33,850
walk by I never realized that they'd

2303
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:37,150
seen Ana Lucia and and he said that

2304
01:53:42,780 --> 01:53:39,850
they're just blind to what's going on

2305
01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:42,790
and he told me that the Aleutians were

2306
01:53:46,530 --> 01:53:44,620
ancient spirits and any proof that

2307
01:53:49,740 --> 01:53:46,540
they've lived on earth since it was

2308
01:53:51,450 --> 01:53:49,750
formed and he said his grandfather told

2309
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:51,460
him Victor Lucia's were the first

2310
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:54,130
inhabitants of the planet and that when

2311
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,250
the Maya came they befriended the little

2312
01:54:02,520 --> 01:53:59,920
people and then I asked him you know

2313
01:54:04,890 --> 01:54:02,530
because in my culture we have you know

2314
01:54:07,470 --> 01:54:04,900
the little people and so I said well are

2315
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:07,480
they angry entities or are they playful

2316
01:54:12,300 --> 01:54:09,760
and he said well they can be both he

2317
01:54:15,810 --> 01:54:12,310
said like children there's a diminutive

2318
01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:15,820
so they also have a personality some

2319
01:54:20,490 --> 01:54:18,340
water a child they can be happy little

2320
01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:20,500
creatures and they love playing tricks

2321
01:54:24,970 --> 01:54:23,380
on humans and but if you make them angry

2322
01:54:26,770 --> 01:54:24,980
they're also like children

2323
01:54:32,350 --> 01:54:26,780
they'll throw tantrums and they can be

2324
01:54:35,590 --> 01:54:32,360
very vindictive and classical tricksters

2325
01:54:38,350 --> 01:54:35,600
form yeah well in their stories you know

2326
01:54:40,180 --> 01:54:38,360
in Native American cultures where where

2327
01:54:44,350 --> 01:54:40,190
you know they steal children and take

2328
01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:44,360
them away among the the charity we we

2329
01:54:53,770 --> 01:54:50,510
often say the if you have a baby boy

2330
01:54:57,210 --> 01:54:53,780
that comes up missing the little people

2331
01:55:00,630 --> 01:54:57,220
have taken him and the little people

2332
01:55:05,260 --> 01:55:00,640
give him this pet all these paths and

2333
01:55:08,050 --> 01:55:05,270
and that if he passes the test

2334
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:08,060
then they keep him and they teach him

2335
01:55:17,140 --> 01:55:14,330
all the medicines of that how to cure

2336
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:17,150
people and they say not very many people

2337
01:55:21,729 --> 01:55:18,800
pass that's why there are very many

2338
01:55:24,190 --> 01:55:21,739
charity doctor so that was a story I

2339
01:55:27,340 --> 01:55:24,200
heard growing up you know do you have

2340
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:27,350
some other questions if you're into into

2341
01:55:33,190 --> 01:55:29,810
fielding them this one comes from Randle

2342
01:55:37,330 --> 01:55:33,200
our good friend ufology who's almost up

2343
01:55:43,060 --> 01:55:37,340
to the 5500 post level at forum dr.

2344
01:55:44,860 --> 01:55:43,070
Perik as calm and you know he's he's

2345
01:55:48,010 --> 01:55:44,870
really into the the ETH the

2346
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:48,020
extra-terrestrial hypothesis and he's

2347
01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:50,330
wondering if you've been able to locate

2348
01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:52,400
or find any clues that might help us

2349
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:55,670
identify what star system on what

2350
01:55:59,380 --> 01:55:57,920
modern-day star chart the star people

2351
01:56:01,630 --> 01:55:59,390
actually come from now you mentioned

2352
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:01,640
that there's quite a number of them do

2353
01:56:10,810 --> 01:56:05,150
we have an idea of where they inhabit in

2354
01:56:15,940 --> 01:56:10,820
our universe well you know I've been

2355
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:15,950
told that that some of them come from

2356
01:56:25,229 --> 01:56:20,800
the star system of Orion or Pleiades but

2357
01:56:27,850 --> 01:56:25,239
it is something that necessarily is

2358
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:27,860
information that's given to the people

2359
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:29,970
as I understand it

2360
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:33,330
very few of them ever have had a case

2361
01:56:38,690 --> 01:56:35,970
where one of them asked where they were

2362
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:38,700
from and they pointed to a star system

2363
01:56:44,450 --> 01:56:41,280
and and they looked it up and discovered

2364
01:56:47,150 --> 01:56:44,460
that it was the Orion star system we had

2365
01:56:49,460 --> 01:56:47,160
a really fascinating episode of after

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the para cast this past week you know we

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talked about reopening old wounds and

2368
01:56:57,410 --> 01:56:54,600
this is with regard to certain

2369
01:57:00,470 --> 01:56:57,420
controversies on some of the UFO

2370
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abductions we have an after the para

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Anderson have you ever wondered why

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banks stockbrokers investment advisors

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adopt America's comm chriskiss asking

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02:02:06,250 --> 02:02:02,780
the questions of dr. rd6 killer Clarke

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author of sky people Chris the legend of

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02:02:10,510 --> 02:02:08,840
White Buffalo Calf woman of the Lakota I

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02:02:12,610 --> 02:02:10,520
think she mentioned that she was from

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the plate he's correct well I've never

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heard that you know and I lived and

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worked among the Lakota for a very long

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02:02:22,690 --> 02:02:19,850
time I have nieces and nephews who are

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black coat that I have not I've never

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02:02:27,820 --> 02:02:24,980
heard that I've stumbled on that

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02:02:30,550 --> 02:02:27,830
information in my my research travels

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02:02:32,650 --> 02:02:30,560
okay here's another question from from

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Randall again it was posted at the

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question Bank at forum dr. Perik asked

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comm what principles of the social

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sciences have you applied to the

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02:02:42,010 --> 02:02:39,740
analysis of the stories that you've

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02:02:44,020 --> 02:02:42,020
gathered and what conclusions have you

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02:02:45,700 --> 02:02:44,030
been able to draw from them we've course

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02:02:48,010 --> 02:02:45,710
been talking about quite a number of

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02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:48,020
them but is there anything that has to

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02:02:53,170 --> 02:02:50,450
do with the upcoming time period for

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instance can we ascertain any sort of

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trends are they ever gonna show up and

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allow themselves to to be revealed or

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reveal themselves to us disclose if you

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will their presence well I had no

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indication of that that that that is

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anything that necessarily going to

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happen anytime soon come and solve all

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our problems or harvest us as like human

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02:03:20,140 --> 02:03:18,260
cattle or something oh I think they're

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already doing that and I don't think

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they need our permission or necessarily

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you know the people that have been

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abducted and been experienced

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02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:30,320
experimented on one person told me that

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02:03:34,690 --> 02:03:32,090
you know they said they say that it's a

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hopper so very low percentage of people

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02:03:41,290 --> 02:03:38,030
who remember the abduction and remember

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02:03:44,170 --> 02:03:41,300
what occurred to them and those that do

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02:03:46,390 --> 02:03:44,180
people don't believe them anyway we have

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another question from Randall who calls

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02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:49,190
himself ufology at Forum dr. Peric ascom

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02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:51,410
I've never heard of this particular term

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02:03:55,690 --> 02:03:53,690
Artie but he's wondering if there's any

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02:03:58,540 --> 02:03:55,700
suggestion that the quote backward

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02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:58,550
walking people unquote might be here to

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alter our ecology to make Earth more

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02:04:04,330 --> 02:04:02,600
hospitable for them

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02:04:06,460 --> 02:04:04,340
what is the backward walking people does

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02:04:09,070 --> 02:04:06,470
that ring a bell the backward walking

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02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:09,080
people is the story I heard down down in

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02:04:16,510 --> 02:04:13,330
Belize I was at a wedding reception of

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02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:16,520
one of my drivers relatives we kind of

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02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:19,490
crashed the party and and as everyone

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02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:22,970
was leaving I was downstairs with a

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02:04:30,490 --> 02:04:26,690
group of women and that night there had

2543
02:04:34,570 --> 02:04:30,500
been a UFO sighting over them on Moton

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02:04:36,370 --> 02:04:34,580
and so they were talking about it so I

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02:04:39,220 --> 02:04:36,380
asked them if they had ever seen a UFO

2546
02:04:40,660 --> 02:04:39,230
and and one of the young women there

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02:04:43,900 --> 02:04:40,670
started telling me about the microd

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02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:43,910
walking people and she told me that they

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02:04:48,730 --> 02:04:46,400
had been visiting her her grandfather's

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02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:48,740
place ever since she was a child and her

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02:04:55,570 --> 02:04:50,690
grandfather said they were there when

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02:05:00,100 --> 02:04:55,580
his father was there but they have the

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02:05:03,070 --> 02:05:00,110
ability according to her to walk both

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02:05:04,450 --> 02:05:03,080
backwards to swivel their heads in a

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02:05:07,390 --> 02:05:04,460
matter that it looks like they're

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02:05:10,690 --> 02:05:07,400
walking they can walk in both directions

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02:05:13,150 --> 02:05:10,700
without turning around they're not

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02:05:14,950 --> 02:05:13,160
backing up they're like they're always

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02:05:15,340 --> 02:05:14,960
looking forward do you understand what I

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02:05:16,900 --> 02:05:15,350
mean

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02:05:25,990 --> 02:05:16,910
yeah shades of Linda Blair and the

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02:05:28,060 --> 02:05:26,000
exorcists around 180 degrees she said

2563
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:28,070
she was never close enough to see a

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02:05:33,010 --> 02:05:30,530
exact features but she said she saw

2565
02:05:35,020 --> 02:05:33,020
their spaceship she said it was long

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02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:35,030
like the cigars her father bought in

2567
02:05:40,660 --> 02:05:38,210
Havana said it was round and long but

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02:05:43,300 --> 02:05:40,670
huge she said I'd never seen anything

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02:05:45,850 --> 02:05:43,310
like that she said but her Papa said

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02:05:48,250 --> 02:05:45,860
their skin was like a snake but their

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02:05:50,530 --> 02:05:48,260
features were human-like except for

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02:05:54,250 --> 02:05:50,540
their heads than their legs and their

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02:05:56,230 --> 02:05:54,260
skin and she said I should say they were

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02:05:58,720 --> 02:05:56,240
shaped like human but she said I never

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02:06:00,490 --> 02:05:58,730
got close enough to see their skin and

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02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:00,500
she said Thomas said that when he was a

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02:06:04,990 --> 02:06:02,450
boy the men hid women from them because

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02:06:07,540 --> 02:06:05,000
they said they stole women and I asked

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02:06:09,610 --> 02:06:07,550
my driver about it because this young

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02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:09,620
woman was related to him and he said

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02:06:16,270 --> 02:06:12,490
that he had heard those stories too

2582
02:06:20,890 --> 02:06:16,280
growing up and he said he did in fact

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02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:20,900
either a UFO a long cylinder shaped

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02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:23,690
craft he said they glowed orange and in

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02:06:31,180 --> 02:06:28,610
turned gray and he said it that they it

2586
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:31,190
had the ability this creature had an

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02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:35,330
ability to reverse itself and it had

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02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:38,810
pivoted and he could walk backward but

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02:06:45,370 --> 02:06:41,810
was facing but it was though it was

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02:06:48,220 --> 02:06:45,380
facing forward he said I know this

2591
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:48,230
doesn't make much sense he said but I

2592
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:51,530
can't explain it any better he said but

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02:06:57,970 --> 02:06:55,130
I didn't think of it as human so to

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02:07:01,240 --> 02:06:57,980
speak I thought and more as a creature

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02:07:05,260 --> 02:07:01,250
of some time that didn't belong here

2596
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:05,270
so he said he was they were big they

2597
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:07,840
were he called it a giant creature

2598
02:07:15,370 --> 02:07:13,130
shades of Paula Stone Brooke Brooke she

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02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:15,380
claims she had a reptilian alien lover

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oh really

2601
02:07:22,900 --> 02:07:19,790
was was quite something yeah she was

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02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:22,910
quite enamored with his prowess shall we

2603
02:07:29,170 --> 02:07:27,170
say really yeah yeah she wrote a book

2604
02:07:31,780 --> 02:07:29,180
back in the 90s that got a quite a bit

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02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:31,790
of notoriety even by the mainstream

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02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:34,090
press it was so over-the-top that they

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02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:37,490
they even sniffed around and she's a

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02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:39,110
jazz singer that a pretty good voice

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02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:42,770
I've heard an album that she did a very

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02:07:52,270 --> 02:07:45,440
bizarre story with lots of salacious

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02:07:55,420 --> 02:07:52,280
details yeah yeah she's definitely a

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02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:55,430
character you could google her and come

2613
02:07:59,410 --> 02:07:56,690
up with some interesting stuff but but

2614
02:08:02,370 --> 02:07:59,420
she did indicate I think that that it

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02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:02,380
was some sort of reptilian type entity

2616
02:08:08,410 --> 02:08:05,930
well here's one of our new posters at

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02:08:11,590 --> 02:08:08,420
forum dr. Perik ass calm he's Croft six

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02:08:13,690 --> 02:08:11,600
is wondering if there was any

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02:08:15,550 --> 02:08:13,700
interviewer encounter that really stands

2620
02:08:19,570 --> 02:08:15,560
out from among the rest on your your

2621
02:08:22,270 --> 02:08:19,580
seven-year research sojourn down in the

2622
02:08:24,580 --> 02:08:22,280
Mesoamerican world is is there a

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02:08:26,890 --> 02:08:24,590
particular story or type of account that

2624
02:08:29,070 --> 02:08:26,900
really really impressed you the most

2625
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:29,080
more than any other

2626
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:34,960
I was in cope on Honduras and I kind of

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02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:39,520
wandered away I had when I I went to

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02:08:47,220 --> 02:08:42,960
cope on I didn't have a guide or or

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02:08:49,050 --> 02:08:47,230
anyone I hadn't hired a when a driver

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02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:49,060
took me there dropped me off and went

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02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:52,690
back to to believe and I was just

2632
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:54,370
wandering around the ancient city I

2633
02:09:00,570 --> 02:08:56,730
spent two or three days just wandering

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02:09:05,550 --> 02:09:00,580
the city and and then the ancient city

2635
02:09:08,190 --> 02:09:05,560
and I was out in an area that it's a

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02:09:10,740 --> 02:09:08,200
little ways off from from the ancient

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02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:10,750
city but it was supposed to be the place

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02:09:25,580 --> 02:09:19,090
where people where people that the

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02:09:29,420 --> 02:09:25,590
housing where people live and as I was I

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02:09:33,180 --> 02:09:29,430
just found a place to sit down and and

2641
02:09:36,210 --> 02:09:33,190
this elderly man came up to me and he

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02:09:38,850 --> 02:09:36,220
said he started telling me that he had

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02:09:42,410 --> 02:09:38,860
heard that I was collecting stories and

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02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:42,420
I said yes and he said look he said

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02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:44,560
decent what do you think of our ancient

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02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:47,110
city and I said well you know it's just

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02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:52,000
it's amazing and he said he said he told

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02:09:59,940 --> 02:09:57,370
me he was born in 1904 and he said that

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02:10:03,060 --> 02:09:59,950
I was he said I was five years old when

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02:10:07,850 --> 02:10:03,070
spending now that was Herbert dependent

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02:10:11,070 --> 02:10:07,860
who is the assistant curator of the

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02:10:15,060 --> 02:10:11,080
American Museum of Natural History in

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02:10:16,500 --> 02:10:15,070
New York yeah more to come with dr. rd6

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02:10:21,070 --> 02:10:16,510
killer Clark and she and and Chris

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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listening to the para Cass

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[Music]

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this is such a fascinating journey while

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exploring not just ancient legends and

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myths were perhaps realities but stories

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that make it to the present day trying

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to integrate one with the other Chris we

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have more questions to focus on or you

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want to finish that answer already first

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yes well anyway he told me that he had

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been working at there he says bendin was

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the first to hire him and he said for

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him I was I was just a runner I'd run

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and get things for him and I carried

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water and he said he paid me ten cents a

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day in u.s. dollars but he told me that

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if I learned English he'd give me more

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money and he said by the time I was

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eight I spoke anyway should I learn very

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fast he said and they paid me

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twenty-five cents a day and he said I

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worked for the Carnegie scientists who

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came here and he said they paid me 50

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cents a day because I could speak

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English and he said that he was benders

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but this was in the early 1900's too but

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anyway he said that one of the things

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that he would he and his friend would do

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is they would go into the caves outside

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the up in the mountains and in the case

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they would get these artifacts and they

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would bring them back and these

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archaeologists would buy them from and

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so they would spend their time when the

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archaeologist was taking time off from

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work they would spend their time

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exploring caves and getting these

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artifacts and he said they entered a

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cave one time and he said they came upon

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a silver man and he told me that it was

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a skeleton of a man in a silver suit

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he said his suit was silver from the top

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of his head to the bottom of his feet

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and he said but all that remained inside

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the suit was a skeleton and he said from

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the size of the suit he was a small man

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smaller than me and he probably was no

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more than a he showed me

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no more than a meter high he said if his

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head was covered he told me with a hard

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metal like to be said he said almost

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like a can he said and there was a

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02:17:30,530 --> 02:17:27,630
strange tablet with strange characters

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02:17:32,990 --> 02:17:30,540
on it lying beside him he said it wasn't

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Maya writing because we knew Maya

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02:17:39,679 --> 02:17:35,910
writing and he said this writing was

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02:17:42,530 --> 02:17:39,689
foreign to us and he said we took it

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02:17:45,229 --> 02:17:42,540
back to the archaeologists they said it

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was unknown to them - they had no idea

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02:17:54,169 --> 02:17:50,819
who wrote it and he said he said that

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the helmet that was covering his head

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02:17:58,700 --> 02:17:55,769
they said that he could describe it as a

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02:18:01,790 --> 02:17:58,710
large can he said it was attached to the

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02:18:04,339 --> 02:18:01,800
suit and I had a hose that attached to

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02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,349
the front of the suit and he said there

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02:18:12,620 --> 02:18:06,319
were different colored buttons on the

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west front of the suit and I said well

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02:18:17,059 --> 02:18:14,370
what does the archaeologist doing that

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02:18:19,309 --> 02:18:17,069
when you brought brought this discovery

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02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:19,319
and he said they were extremely excited

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02:18:25,910 --> 02:18:23,250
he said they took it into one of the

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02:18:27,259 --> 02:18:25,920
tents and began examining it and he said

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02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:27,269
I overheard one of them say that they

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02:18:31,790 --> 02:18:28,889
had to send it back to the US they

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02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:31,800
immediately to their University and he

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02:18:39,650 --> 02:18:37,679
said I believe that what I said what I

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found was proof that the Maya has a

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02:18:44,419 --> 02:18:42,630
connection with the Stars and that's why

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02:18:46,700 --> 02:18:44,429
I always called him the silver man from

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02:18:49,729 --> 02:18:46,710
the stars I thought out he said that I

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02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:49,739
thought there was the good name and he

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02:18:55,519 --> 02:18:53,130
said the next day I saw a box in a tent

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02:18:57,410 --> 02:18:55,529
and I think they packed him up and

2846
02:18:58,849 --> 02:18:57,420
shipped him to their universities it

2847
02:19:01,129 --> 02:18:58,859
because I never saw it again

2848
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:01,139
and he said all my life I've wondered

2849
02:19:06,530 --> 02:19:04,410
about this silver man I'm sure the

2850
02:19:09,500 --> 02:19:06,540
scientist she said then the US has

2851
02:19:13,070 --> 02:19:09,510
studied it Reis studied it but they keep

2852
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,080
it all a secret he said I made a mistake

2853
02:19:16,339 --> 02:19:15,359
I believe and it's a mistake that I

2854
02:19:18,410 --> 02:19:16,349
can't correct

2855
02:19:20,719 --> 02:19:18,420
he said they only gave us two dollars

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02:19:23,629 --> 02:19:20,729
for him but in those days we thought we

2857
02:19:25,669 --> 02:19:23,639
were rich but he said

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02:19:27,980 --> 02:19:25,679
the wise men told her stories when we

2859
02:19:30,620 --> 02:19:27,990
were boys about a small race of men who

2860
02:19:32,419 --> 02:19:30,630
visited earth and sometimes they lived

2861
02:19:35,300 --> 02:19:32,429
up in the mountains for weeks at a time

2862
02:19:38,780 --> 02:19:35,310
and they bothered no one so the people

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02:19:41,690 --> 02:19:38,790
after Malone and they if they did see

2864
02:19:44,419 --> 02:19:41,700
them they avoided they avoided people

2865
02:19:46,339 --> 02:19:44,429
and he said that the elders say they

2866
02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:46,349
came and silver disk that's this fire

2867
02:19:51,950 --> 02:19:49,410
and that they wore his silver suits and

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02:19:55,490 --> 02:19:51,960
he said I think we discovered one of

2869
02:19:59,390 --> 02:19:55,500
them who died and they put him in the

2870
02:20:01,430 --> 02:19:59,400
cave and we disturbed his gravesite and

2871
02:20:04,460 --> 02:20:01,440
he said I will always be haunted by that

2872
02:20:06,620 --> 02:20:04,470
idea I said what did you tell the elders

2873
02:20:09,801 --> 02:20:06,630
what you found and he said oh no we were

2874
02:20:13,070 --> 02:20:09,811
afraid he said I think we always knew

2875
02:20:15,740 --> 02:20:13,080
what we did was wrong he said but after

2876
02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:15,750
that we never hunted for artifacts again

2877
02:20:21,980 --> 02:20:17,840
our conscience wouldn't let us he said

2878
02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:21,990
he said for some reason I think we knew

2879
02:20:27,530 --> 02:20:23,970
we had given up an important part of our

2880
02:20:29,150 --> 02:20:27,540
history and only the scientists who took

2881
02:20:32,180 --> 02:20:29,160
it know the truth and they're not

2882
02:20:33,980 --> 02:20:32,190
talking he said your government probably

2883
02:20:36,950 --> 02:20:33,990
knows too and I think our government

2884
02:20:38,960 --> 02:20:36,960
probably knows he said who reminds me of

2885
02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:38,970
the story and this is a question in our

2886
02:20:45,500 --> 02:20:42,930
forum from Dave M he's wondering about

2887
02:20:47,390 --> 02:20:45,510
the retelling the story of the snow plow

2888
02:20:48,890 --> 02:20:47,400
driver who picked up an et was left

2889
02:20:51,350 --> 02:20:48,900
behind in a snowstorm

2890
02:20:53,120 --> 02:20:51,360
I found that story really fascinating

2891
02:20:55,551 --> 02:20:53,130
why don't you give our our new list

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02:20:57,770 --> 02:20:55,561
there's a recap of that story that was a

2893
02:21:00,801 --> 02:20:57,780
very very intriguing account well that

2894
02:21:04,761 --> 02:21:00,811
happened up in Alaska and that was that

2895
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:04,771
was with an Alaska native is a snow plow

2896
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:07,920
driver and he searched me out because he

2897
02:21:12,860 --> 02:21:10,080
had heard from the superintendent of

2898
02:21:15,740 --> 02:21:12,870
schools in this district where I was

2899
02:21:17,390 --> 02:21:15,750
that I was collecting UFO stories and he

2900
02:21:19,490 --> 02:21:17,400
came in and he said I really have a

2901
02:21:22,370 --> 02:21:19,500
story to tell you it he proceeded to

2902
02:21:24,650 --> 02:21:22,380
tell me that there was an and then and

2903
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:24,660
what was interesting is I was in the

2904
02:21:29,540 --> 02:21:26,730
town that night I was in that village

2905
02:21:32,420 --> 02:21:29,550
because I was snowed in but it was a

2906
02:21:38,060 --> 02:21:32,430
huge snowstorm and I couldn't get out

2907
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:38,070
and and he said that

2908
02:21:42,050 --> 02:21:40,290
he had a partner and his partner was

2909
02:21:44,840 --> 02:21:42,060
coming from one direction and he was

2910
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:44,850
going the other direction and he said

2911
02:21:51,770 --> 02:21:49,290
that all of a sudden as he as he's

2912
02:21:54,740 --> 02:21:51,780
plowing this road and visibility is very

2913
02:21:57,920 --> 02:21:54,750
bad he comes upon this circular craft

2914
02:22:03,920 --> 02:21:57,930
parked in the middle of the road and he

2915
02:22:07,130 --> 02:22:03,930
said he stops and he sees this this beam

2916
02:22:10,010 --> 02:22:07,140
outside the spacecraft and then all of a

2917
02:22:12,950 --> 02:22:10,020
sudden the spacecraft takes off and this

2918
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:12,960
being runs into the woods and he said

2919
02:22:19,880 --> 02:22:17,520
then the being come back and he said he

2920
02:22:21,980 --> 02:22:19,890
gets out because he said I'm not God you

2921
02:22:25,550 --> 02:22:21,990
know he said just as I'm trying to get

2922
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,560
out there being come and he's at my

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02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:27,600
window at the passenger window and he's

2924
02:22:35,719 --> 02:22:31,680
blaming me for the prison space crap and

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02:22:38,900 --> 02:22:35,729
and I said well did you talk to him and

2926
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he said you know I was so scared and so

2927
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I was I couldn't even think of things to

2928
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ask him but he said I you know I went

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all the way you know on my route he said

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that that the be this this beam was very

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fascinated with it with his with his

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snowplow and how it worked and

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everything and he said but he could

2934
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appear and disappear at will and he said

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on our way back he said here they were

2936
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plough up to a certain way and then they

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come back and plough again because the

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snow was coming down for that and he

2939
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said I came upon the spacecraft again

2940
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and he said then there he is he's out of

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the cabin he's back in front of the

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craft and getting ready to leave and but

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he said this is this really happened to

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me and he said but he said I was so

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excited and so scared at the same time

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but there were so many things I wanted

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to ask him and it wasn't until after he

2948
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was gone that I thought of any other

2949
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what can you imagine that happening to

2950
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you ET what you say Chris three two one

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yeah shades of et being left behind and

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the movie because I guess he had a way

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to phone home and or at least phone the

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ship and have him come back and grab him

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before someone phones us we're talking

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to dr. rd6 killer Clark author of sky

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people with Jean and Chris you're in the

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para cast

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you know already as you were talking I

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was thinking here what would happen if I

3072
02:29:01,040 --> 02:28:58,020
ever picked up somebody it was strange

3073
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I wasn't the kind of person though to

3074
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pick up somebody on the road I know

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that's a legend that people pick up

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somebody on the road and you either have

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some consequences or it's just normal

3078
02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:14,910
but I'm not into hitchhiking you know

3079
02:29:21,229 --> 02:29:17,850
I'm not into picking up hitchhikers I

3080
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did it only once back in the seventies

3081
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and his name was Norman Norman Bates

3082
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,600
well her name was no let me not get into

3083
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:29,520
that Jean I took her to her destination

3084
02:29:34,610 --> 02:29:32,250
she left well you know I used to do that

3085
02:29:36,830 --> 02:29:34,620
all the time as pickup people because

3086
02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:36,840
I'd be on the reservation and I'd see

3087
02:29:42,260 --> 02:29:38,640
somebody walking I'd just stop and say

3088
02:29:43,940 --> 02:29:42,270
where are you going get in and but I

3089
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:43,950
would never do I would never pick up

3090
02:29:48,559 --> 02:29:45,930
anybody on the air state or you know

3091
02:29:50,540 --> 02:29:48,569
someplace like that and I've had I

3092
02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:50,550
stopped at gas stations and people come

3093
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:52,170
up to me and say you know could you get

3094
02:29:56,960 --> 02:29:54,960
me out of it but I don't do that anymore

3095
02:29:59,900 --> 02:29:56,970
you know I think the world is too

3096
02:30:01,809 --> 02:29:59,910
dangerous now but if I'm on if I'm on

3097
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the reservation I'll pick them up

3098
02:30:08,929 --> 02:30:05,760
because you know I just basically said

3099
02:30:11,570 --> 02:30:08,939
trust people I guess but I were a nurse

3100
02:30:15,530 --> 02:30:11,580
they wouldn't do it well it's like we're

3101
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Society has changed it years ago you

3102
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know you just hang out in the porch the

3103
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doors were open to your home and I grew

3104
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up in Brooklyn New York and after I left

3105
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that neighborhood it became mostly a

3106
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combat so now those neighborhoods have

3107
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become very rich very expensive to live

3108
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in but during those years everybody hung

3109
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out with everybody it was very relaxing

3110
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you didn't worry about somebody coming

3111
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along on the street who might represent

3112
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some kind of potential danger for you

3113
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well you know and and

3114
02:30:53,600 --> 02:30:51,570
I can remember when I was young you know

3115
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my dad used to pick up hitchhikers all

3116
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the time most of them are military man

3117
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though most Irish soldiers just trying

3118
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to get home you know and I don't know if

3119
02:31:06,051 --> 02:31:02,070
in those days the military didn't give

3120
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him you know bus tickets home if they

3121
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were always out on the road hitchhiking

3122
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my dad would always stop and pick him up

3123
02:31:16,220 --> 02:31:14,101
I can remember that how the world has

3124
02:31:18,621 --> 02:31:16,230
changed becomes so much more dangerous

3125
02:31:19,970 --> 02:31:18,631
maybe we do need the sky people to come

3126
02:31:24,411 --> 02:31:19,980
back and show us the way

3127
02:31:26,151 --> 02:31:24,421
well it would it might help is there an

3128
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expectation of that is there an

3129
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expectation amongst these people that

3130
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someday whoever visited them whenever

3131
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will come back here to set things right

3132
02:31:40,281 --> 02:31:37,860
again if there's a non-interference

3133
02:31:42,051 --> 02:31:40,291
policy of course that's inoperative but

3134
02:31:46,761 --> 02:31:42,061
otherwise what are your feelings about

3135
02:31:50,751 --> 02:31:46,771
it well I was told by one one one

3136
02:31:52,581 --> 02:31:50,761
gentleman I interview that that that if

3137
02:31:59,171 --> 02:31:52,591
things ever got really bad they would

3138
02:32:03,560 --> 02:32:01,310
well look at all the people that went

3139
02:32:06,671 --> 02:32:03,570
down to that part of the world waiting

3140
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:06,681
for the aliens to show up during the

3141
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2012 right now what a buzzkill I know I

3142
02:32:20,991 --> 02:32:17,311
wasn't one of them because yeah I went

3143
02:32:33,951 --> 02:32:21,001
down a month beforehand it was dead as a

3144
02:32:36,651 --> 02:32:33,961
doornail just about it they also took

3145
02:32:39,051 --> 02:32:36,661
advantage of it you know they're taking

3146
02:32:41,930 --> 02:32:39,061
advantage of tourists and prices were

3147
02:32:44,621 --> 02:32:41,940
doubled in places well not only that you

3148
02:32:49,011 --> 02:32:44,631
know you know the first my first

3149
02:32:52,901 --> 02:32:49,021
experience at Palenque hours stopped by

3150
02:32:57,929 --> 02:32:52,911
a young man who said you want to see

3151
02:33:03,480 --> 02:33:00,330
you know here here he's just taking

3152
02:33:05,370 --> 02:33:03,490
advantage you know of his you know he

3153
02:33:09,690 --> 02:33:05,380
doesn't care that it's a bastardization

3154
02:33:11,820 --> 02:33:09,700
of his culture all he cares about is if

3155
02:33:14,130 --> 02:33:11,830
he can convince me that that's a picture

3156
02:33:18,900 --> 02:33:14,140
of an ancient astronaut I might buy this

3157
02:33:22,260 --> 02:33:18,910
plaque of his you know and I I see that

3158
02:33:26,969 --> 02:33:22,270
all the time you know I work where in

3159
02:33:30,540 --> 02:33:26,979
order to make a buck people exploit

3160
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:30,550
their culture yeah a lot of that was

3161
02:33:37,980 --> 02:33:34,090
going on in Mexico with this 2012 yeah

3162
02:33:39,690 --> 02:33:37,990
was laughing behind the people back you

3163
02:33:43,429 --> 02:33:39,700
know they said it work you know this

3164
02:33:46,650 --> 02:33:43,439
isn't gonna happen when when one one

3165
02:33:48,870 --> 02:33:46,660
calendar is the next one begins it

3166
02:33:50,820 --> 02:33:48,880
doesn't mean for the world yes like your

3167
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:50,830
odometer gloves you know turning over a

3168
02:33:56,250 --> 02:33:52,930
hundred thousand miles you know you know

3169
02:33:58,020 --> 02:33:56,260
it's interesting Artie I was among one

3170
02:34:02,610 --> 02:33:58,030
of the last groups that was allowed to

3171
02:34:06,840 --> 02:34:02,620
go down into into the tomb actually

3172
02:34:09,179 --> 02:34:06,850
tower there in Palenque and see the

3173
02:34:11,219 --> 02:34:09,189
sarcophagus in there and it was about a

3174
02:34:14,340 --> 02:34:11,229
month or two later that they literally

3175
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:14,350
US walled it up and nobody can go down

3176
02:34:18,030 --> 02:34:15,610
there not even the scientists I think

3177
02:34:24,030 --> 02:34:18,040
can go down there actually got

3178
02:34:27,900 --> 02:34:24,040
permission to go down there and I had a

3179
02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:27,910
guide whose father had that was working

3180
02:34:36,179 --> 02:34:32,590
on that excavation yeah that was yeah I

3181
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:36,189
know him actually it's the title or

3182
02:34:43,050 --> 02:34:41,050
Alphonse Alfonso Morales the dad Don

3183
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:43,060
Marcos is was one of the guys that uh

3184
02:34:48,240 --> 02:34:46,180
that helped to excavate that and you

3185
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:48,250
know he told me that his father would

3186
02:34:54,500 --> 02:34:50,410
never go back down there after you know

3187
02:34:57,960 --> 02:34:54,510
they opened this when they split the the

3188
02:35:00,690 --> 02:34:57,970
the cover officer cause because he said

3189
02:35:03,420 --> 02:35:00,700
this all his cold hair just rushed out

3190
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:03,430
and rushed up you know out of the

3191
02:35:08,280 --> 02:35:06,880
pyramid and he said my father would

3192
02:35:10,631 --> 02:35:08,290
never go back down there he would never

3193
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:10,641
return and it frightened me

3194
02:35:18,421 --> 02:35:13,730
so much but he was able because of his

3195
02:35:21,160 --> 02:35:18,431
position and you know his family ties to

3196
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:21,170
Palenque he was able to get me down in

3197
02:35:25,900 --> 02:35:23,690
and and to see that too and this was

3198
02:35:30,390 --> 02:35:25,910
just a couple of years ago

3199
02:35:33,970 --> 02:35:30,400
yeah he's now the chief you know

3200
02:35:36,041 --> 02:35:33,980
anthropologist there yeah at the site

3201
02:35:40,930 --> 02:35:36,051
he's one of my brother's tour guides

3202
02:35:43,930 --> 02:35:40,940
actually is he where's your brother work

3203
02:35:47,171 --> 02:35:43,940
out of he's an Albuquerque but he does

3204
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:47,181
he lived down there in the area for

3205
02:35:51,730 --> 02:35:49,130
almost six years and set up the business

3206
02:35:53,591 --> 02:35:51,740
and they've been running mud tour groups

3207
02:35:57,011 --> 02:35:53,601
custom tour groups through there now for

3208
02:36:02,700 --> 02:35:57,021
over 15 years yeah I just go on my own

3209
02:36:07,390 --> 02:36:02,710
I do all my own ring one woman I have a

3210
02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:07,400
little school I support and in this day

3211
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:11,450
and so I go down there frequently don't

3212
02:36:15,400 --> 02:36:13,250
worry the little school inside proceeds

3213
02:36:17,291 --> 02:36:15,410
some of the proceeds from the sale of

3214
02:36:21,131 --> 02:36:17,301
this book will go to that little school

3215
02:36:24,310 --> 02:36:21,141
in building their library and in helping

3216
02:36:28,900 --> 02:36:24,320
kids that can't buy tablets and pens and

3217
02:36:30,280 --> 02:36:28,910
stuff so they don't go to school yeah we

3218
02:36:31,980 --> 02:36:30,290
need more people like that helping

3219
02:36:35,020 --> 02:36:31,990
indigenous people especially the

3220
02:36:38,020 --> 02:36:35,030
educational systems well I want to get

3221
02:36:41,831 --> 02:36:38,030
back you know I mean those people gave a

3222
02:36:44,171 --> 02:36:41,841
lot to me and you know shared their

3223
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:44,181
knowledge and their experiences with me

3224
02:36:49,240 --> 02:36:46,490
so I try to give back right that's the

3225
02:36:50,921 --> 02:36:49,250
least you can do yeah right well we're

3226
02:36:52,541 --> 02:36:50,931
just about out of time Marty can you

3227
02:36:55,600 --> 02:36:52,551
tell our listeners where they can find

3228
02:37:00,570 --> 02:36:55,610
more of the stuff that you do well I

3229
02:37:05,261 --> 02:37:00,580
have a website and it's being updated I

3230
02:37:08,171 --> 02:37:05,271
I was trying to get the a couple of mice

3231
02:37:11,470 --> 02:37:08,181
I think I've got a couple of articles on

3232
02:37:13,541 --> 02:37:11,480
there that's been published and since

3233
02:37:16,541 --> 02:37:13,551
since the first book I've written trying

3234
02:37:20,320 --> 02:37:16,551
to get some of my other stories my

3235
02:37:22,150 --> 02:37:20,330
fiction stories up there but it does

3236
02:37:24,220 --> 02:37:22,160
give an idea of where I'm going to be

3237
02:37:27,310 --> 02:37:24,230
and various interviews

3238
02:37:30,041 --> 02:37:27,320
I'm having and so they can find it there

3239
02:37:33,820 --> 02:37:30,051
and and I encourage everybody you know

3240
02:37:36,671 --> 02:37:33,830
you contact me you know my email is

3241
02:37:39,730 --> 02:37:36,681
there are he at six killer calm and the

3242
02:37:42,671 --> 02:37:39,740
site is six killer calm my website is

3243
02:37:45,310 --> 02:37:42,681
six killer calm right okay and my email

3244
02:37:48,551 --> 02:37:45,320
is already at six killer calm all right

3245
02:37:50,921 --> 02:37:48,561
you can find us at the para cast calm

3246
02:37:53,470 --> 02:37:50,931
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3259
02:38:29,621 --> 02:38:27,021
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3260
02:38:31,301 --> 02:38:29,631
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3261
02:38:34,030 --> 02:38:31,311
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3262
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3263
02:38:39,341 --> 02:38:37,641
them for you now about that rt6 killer

3264
02:38:42,251 --> 02:38:39,351
Clark thanks for joining us in the para

3265
02:38:44,711 --> 02:38:42,261
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3266
02:38:53,770 --> 02:38:44,721
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3267
02:39:00,200 --> 02:38:57,020
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02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:00,210
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